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thread.php?time=[x] doesn't produce anything.

Is it just me, or did most of the entire board break because of the PHP update?


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It kind of did.

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We need PROGRESS REPORTS out of the damn dev team, telling us what's going to be fixed in the next update.

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Posted by Trelior
Is it just me, or did most of the entire board break because of the PHP update?

That's why they say "never change a running system".


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Posted by Liliana
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Is it just me, or did most of the entire board break because of the PHP update?

That's why they say "never change a running system".
If it was coded properly in the first place, none of this (or at least very little of it) would have wound up in a broken mess.

I could understand slapping barely-valid PHP together to get a quick functionality test, but with the time frame given to developing this incarnation of the board software, I think that a better job could have been done.


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Posted on 06-05-12 07:08 PM (rev. 2 of 06-05-12 07:10 PM by Epele) Link | ID: 16508
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Posted by GreyMaria
We need PROGRESS REPORTS out of the damn dev team, telling us what's going to be fixed in the next update.
How are we supposed to give you a report of what we're fixing if we don't know all of what's broken?
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If it was coded properly in the first place, none of this (or at least very little of it) would have wound up in a broken mess.
Actually, some of the older code is clean. It's features that weren't in the initial 2.0 code that tend to break. :x


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"forum pages" = "features that weren't in the initial 2.0 code"? (Remember, that broke.)

I think it's more that PHP doesn't give a shit about backwards compatibility, so everytime an update is made, stuff breaks in the worst way possible.


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Posted by Gywall
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If it was coded properly in the first place, none of this (or at least very little of it) would have wound up in a broken mess.
Actually, some of the older code is clean. It's features that weren't in the initial 2.0 code that tend to break. :x
Why would a faulty feature, which by definition is just an additional functionality, cause the entire board to go down for several hours?


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Posted by Gywall
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We need PROGRESS REPORTS out of the damn dev team, telling us what's going to be fixed in the next update.
How are we supposed to give you a report of what we're fixing if we don't know all of what's broken?

What have you fixed so far so that we know what not to complain about? -_-

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We need PROGRESS REPORTS out of the damn dev team, telling us what's going to be fixed in the next update.
How are we supposed to give you a report of what we're fixing if we don't know all of what's broken?

What have you fixed so far so that we know what not to complain about? -_-
There's nothing currently in the limbo state. I'm aware you cannot purchase in the Item Shop.. but not sure where it's borking right now. :x


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Posted on 06-05-12 09:34 PM (rev. 2 of 06-05-12 09:35 PM by StapleButter) Link | ID: 16524
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Posted by Gywall
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We need PROGRESS REPORTS out of the damn dev team, telling us what's going to be fixed in the next update.
How are we supposed to give you a report of what we're fixing if we don't know all of what's broken?

What have you fixed so far so that we know what not to complain about? -_-
There's nothing currently in the limbo state. I'm aware you cannot purchase in the Item Shop.. but not sure where it's borking right now. :x

The item shop issue is also related to register_globals, though it isn't as direct as most of the others. It should be fixed at the next board update :)

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Posted by Trelior
thread.php?time=[x] doesn't produce anything.

Is it just me, or did most of the entire board break because of the PHP update?


Yup. The skinny semi-inaccurate summery is the way is how some variables ABII are coded. It was valid method back in 2005, but is now deprecated in PHP, and this last version made it 'unsupported'. It's going to take a while to get the code fully updated. In fact we need everyone to post about any and all issues. This effects the foundation of the code.

Posted by Trelior

I could understand slapping barely-valid PHP together to get a quick functionality test, but with the time frame given to developing this incarnation of the board software, I think that a better job could have been done.


See my reply from earlier in this message. Shit gets deprecated. Bouche also needed the newer functionality and security so he updated everything. He wasn't aware of the end of life of register_globals, and other components not supported. He's not going to undo it however.

Frankly we need to update the code to work without it anyway. Now we have to. (and it was on the list anyway)

Relax. Tell us what's broke and what's not, and we'll fix it. That's the only way we know quickly.



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Posted by Emuz
Frankly we need to update the code to work without it anyway. Now we have to. (and it was on the list anyway)
Wasn't the entire point of taking the nearly six months we were planning/implementing the upgrade to this new software so that we would have up-to-date code, and not stuff that was nearing depreciation into obsolescence?

Relax. Tell us what's broke and what's not, and we'll fix it. That's the only way we know quickly.
As for things I've noticed being broken, most (if not all) has been addressed and/or fixed already.


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Posted by Trelior
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Frankly we need to update the code to work without it anyway. Now we have to. (and it was on the list anyway)
Wasn't the entire point of taking the nearly six months we were planning/implementing the upgrade to this new software so that we would have up-to-date code, and not stuff that was nearing depreciation into obsolescence?


There is a lot to the code. We did change a lot of 'big things', and that was the goal. Anything we did work on was updated for future-compliance as we went along. We didn't look at anything that was working and didn't have any changes applied due to time constraints. This problem is 'needle in a haystack' type of a problem. Mostly it's stuff like variables (and the board has shittons of those) have to be defined, globally referenced, or managed differently than the old 2005 way. Each non-compliant variable or code needs to be found, and updated. I had planned to start doing this after version 2.5.1 (I don't think you where on IRC when we talked about that one) to clean it up for public release. So no this wasn't part of the 2.1->2.5 phase as it was assumed we would have the time to do the 'search and destroy' style updates after the board was running, and we could set down with a test server and fix it. At least since we did do some of this during that six months so it's better than it would have been.

Oh well. I will be honest, I got upset when it broke too. I am sorry about this annoyance. :(

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irc.php is also failing similarly.

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Last Post should now fixed. Let us know if it continues to mess up.

@GreyMario: Ok We'll take a look at it. Thanks.

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The birthday input on editprofile.php is broken. It won't let me put mine in.


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Both issues should be fixed in the next update :)

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