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Pokémon Battle Revolutions AI is just about passable.. but the stats of the Pokémon in it.. They're horrific.

You can probably OHKO a lot of things using Cut. <_<


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Posted by Gywall
Pokémon Battle Revolutions AI is just about passable.. but the stats of the Pokémon in it.. They're horrific.
No... The AI is stupid. It tries to use Normal- and Poison-type attacks on Ghost- and Steel-types, respectively, all the time. I don't even bait the attacks with a switch, the AI actually tries to take down my Gengar with Giga Impact.


You can probably OHKO a lot of things using Cut. <_<
I purposely used a fresh from the wilds of Mt Silver Ponyta in with my party of level 100s and went into one of the stadiums with it. I was taking the scaled-to-meet-my-highests down in one shot from Take Down. >_>

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I have a couple of EV "trained" pokémon in PBR. Namely a Metagross and a Blissey. No, they haven't broken the limitations of what you can do in the games. If they did, they'd turn out as "bad eggs" when transfering them to PBR.

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Posted by Trelior

You can probably OHKO a lot of things using Cut. <_<
I purposely used a fresh from the wilds of Mt Silver Ponyta in with my party of level 100s and went into one of the stadiums with it. I was taking the scaled-to-meet-my-highests down in one shot from Take Down. >_>
This reminds me why I tend to either practice using the Battle Subway or a human being.. o_x


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Do we have any specific rules? Like no legendaries, if double team is banned from play, etc?

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Posted by Trapster
Do we have any specific rules?
Yeah, but it will depend on the scenario of the tournament.

Like no legendaries
That depends.

if double team is banned from play
Most definitely. I refuse to play if the Evasion Clause is not in effect (no moves that raise evasion can be used) due to asshats that like to run Sandslash, Cacturne, and Garchomp with Bright Powders and Double Team on their sandstorm rosters. It's unwin-able, and incredibly unfair.

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You can negate the effect of double team with Haze, though. And there are moves that doesn't miss aswell. Just saying, though. Not trying to convince you to allow it.

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Legendaries better not be banned, cause my team consists of legendaries.


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Someones cheap

Anyway I agree with the evasion clause and I do think we should ban legendaries. Also Togekiss *looks at Trel*


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@Trapster: All of the Pokemon that learn Haze either suck or can use the move slot much more effectively. I'm pretty sure I've already discussed this stance with you.

@Rydia: Learn to build teams. Legendaries, more often than not, are proof you suck.

@Aesur: I don't agree that all legends should be banned. Some are legitimately balanced for a fair metagame due to either having average stats or a poorer than average move pool.

Ban Togekiss because I know how to use it? Sir, you wound me.

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Aw but you know you love it ;o

So how is everyone's team coming?


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My team is ready. Anyone who has battled me in a GenV battle knows what I've in store, assuming that's what the consensus comes to.

We still need one more user or else someone gets a bye to the second round. Which isn't fair, because that puts that person in the semifinal unopposed.

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Ban Togekiss because I know how to use it? Sir, you wound me.


I believe I know how you use it. It's its best ability by far. I could be an ass and decide to use it aswell but it feels kinda...uninspiring at the same time. But knowing how to use it, or at least how I should/would use it, I know it'd be formidable.

Btw, do we have any set rules except the double team one?

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So how is everyone's team coming?


Er, I've only come up with two or three pokémon and what to base my team around. Kinda. Haven't installed the program yet either.

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Posted by Trapster
Btw, do we have any set rules except the double team one?
Not that I can think of, I was going to take a poll of opinions and decide what clauses to enact from there. We might even switch it up between tourneys if there's a diverse enough set.

Under no circumstance will I allow any evasion increases by moves or by combination of Bright Powder and Snow Cloak/Sand Veil, however, use of one or the other (Bright Powder or Ability) at a time is fine, because otherwise the abilities of Froslass, Sandslash, Garchomp, etc. would be pointless.

Speaking of Garchomp... I realize it was tiered as Uber in the Gen IV metagame, but that was because of the item/ability combo in addition to its high stats and impressive move pool. With the expanded evasion clause I just presented, I don't see any issues with using it. That stated, I still won't be using it, though I hope that everyone doesn't get the idea to have one on every team. Just remember, I pack a lot of Ice.

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That sounds pretty fair on the topic of evasion via item/ability. The move Double Team though? That's pretty much a dick's move to me.

And it might be best to decide which Pokémon aren't gonna be in the mix.. 'cause I certainly don't want to see Arceus' ugly mug again.


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Are you saying using Double Team is a dick move, or are you saying that banning it is?

If Double Team/Minimize/whatever is allowed, there is too much risk in it being relied on for cheap wins. It gives the user an unfair advantage after two or three uses. Sure-hit moves aren't reliable enough to take evasion abuse on.

Arceus is definitely banned because of being 720 stat with a broken move set with the ability to essentially STAB anything you give it. Quite simply put; no.

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Posted by Gywall
'cause I certainly don't want to see Arceus' ugly mug again.


Aside from the total stat points I don't find Arceus that interesting, anyway.

Now, which legendaries are well-balanced enough that they'd be allowed? IF they're allowed at all. The easiest solution would just be to leave all of them out.

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Posted by Trapster
Now, which legendaries are well-balanced enough that they'd be allowed? IF they're allowed at all. The easiest solution would just be to leave all of them out.
The Kanto birds, Johto beasts, Celebi, Regis, Jirachi, Sinnoh lake guardians, and Unova deer are my personal list I like to allow. They're balanced in the respect of stats, and their move pools are restricted enough to only have a few viable sets.

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Phione should be fine as well I'd assume. But maybe that one is not classed as a legendary since you can breed it? :V

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Posted by Lunaria
Phione should be fine as well I'd assume. But maybe that one is not classed as a legendary since you can breed it? :V
Phione is fine, although, it's hardly worth use due to how poor it is overall. 480 stats and a lukewarm move pool doesn't do it any favors.

Manaphy is definitely banned due to Tail Glow being broken as all fuck.
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