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Posted by Trelior
@Trapster: All of the Pokemon that learn Haze either suck or can use the move slot much more effectively. I'm pretty sure I've already discussed this stance with you.

@Rydia: Learn to build teams. Legendaries, more often than not, are proof you suck.

@Aesur: I don't agree that all legends should be banned. Some are legitimately balanced for a fair metagame due to either having average stats or a poorer than average move pool.

Ban Togekiss because I know how to use it? Sir, you wound me.


No It's actually because of the hard work I had to put in on the real game to get them. After so many losses and resets, I really would like to have them, I use them more anyways, and if I don't I do have a team that only uses one legendary.


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Posted by Trelior
Are you saying using Double Team is a dick move, or are you saying that banning it is?
Using the move.
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The Kanto birds, Johto beasts, Celebi, Regis, Jirachi, Sinnoh lake guardians, and Unova deer are my personal list I like to allow.
That's almost what I'd allow.. Minus a couple of named species there.. >_>


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So by the Kanto Birds, are you implying Moltres, Articuno and Zapdos? Or something different?


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Posted by Rydia
So by the Kanto Birds, are you implying Moltres, Articuno and Zapdos? Or something different?
Let me enlighten you on the legendary groups..
Birds: Articuno, Zapdos, Moltres
Cats Dogs Gerbils Beasts: Entei, Raikou, Suicune
Golems: Regirock, Regice, Registeel
Pixies: Azelf, Mesprit, Uxie
Muskedeers: Terrakion, Virizion, Cobalion (and Keldeo by extension)

Also, those are pretty much what I'm pretty much happy with.


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I made two teams.... Both are shit.

I am NOT a Pokemon teambuilder by ANY means and I have little idea what I'm doing, but we'll have to deal.

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Posted by Gywall
Minus a couple of named species there.. >_>
I only named two, and they're both actually fair to use.

Celebi is crippled by its Grass typing, because all it does is weigh it down with unnecessary weakness.

Jirachi isn't nearly as broken as people seem to think it is. Yes, its Steel/Psychic typing is a major boon in its favor. However, its move set is deliberate in making it a flincher, and it does everything else rather poorly. Not to mention, it's the only Pokemon I can think of that can pull off a physical para-flinch. Its 100 in every stat makes it merely average in all fields, just barely good enough to be considered sweep material. The paralysis part of its combo is the only thing that gives it movement advantage over speedsters like Dream World Blaziken, which could easily one hit it with Blaze Kick, anyway.

Posted by Rydia
No It's actually because of the hard work I had to put in on the real game to get them. After so many losses and resets, I really would like to have them, I use them more anyways, and if I don't I do have a team that only uses one legendary.
You seem to be missing the part where we're not going to be playing on the real games. This is an even playing field where everything is available to everyone, no one has any advantages over anybody else just because they put more time into training their Pokemon than the next guy.

This is entirely based on how well you can formulate a winning team based on having everything easily at your disposal. Ergo, using legendaries in this because you use legendaries in the actual games is flimsy justification.

Bear in mind, if you're talking about using the ones mentioned as fair use, you're more than welcome to use them. I'm just saying "No Mewtwo, no Lugia, no Lati@s, etc"

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Its 100 in every stat makes it merely average in all fields
100 is "average"? I think 100 is actually very good to be honest.

If you look at the actual averages (assuming only fully evolved Pokémon), they're not even close to 100. >_>


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Actually some pokemon have over 100 on some stats but not many.

Also you forgot about Kyogre. That's the only Legend I really need to use.


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Posted by Rydia

Also you forgot about Kyogre. That's the only Legend I really need to use.


Thanks for revealing what your team will be built around. :P

Edit: Also, Kyogre's ability comes with a quite high price.

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Also you forgot about Kyogre. That's the only Legend I really need to use.
Kyogre is pretty much instant banlist. It pretty much outclasses way too many Pokémon.


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Posted by Rydia

Also you forgot about Kyogre. That's the only Legend I really need to use.


Thanks for revealing what your team will be built around. :P


Haha. No problem ;)

Also, Ban it if you want, that'll leave plenty other choices, however none as good. But It's only good if you use it right.


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Suppose I should just go with my current setup. If I lose the first thing I do, then that's that.

Does Pokémon Online have spectator mode? It'd be fun for those who have lost to watch the other battles.

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I got a team planned.. Which should be fairly fun and balanced to play with.

In fact, if certain Pokémon work out.. I'll get around to raising them as actual Pokémon.


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Okay, how are things going?

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I have my team planned, I just have to implement it.

I think we should get a few matches started at some point soon, otherwise this is just going to stagnate. I'll work up a bracket some time and get a tourney started.

I think our first tourney should just be unthemed, that way we can see how everyone fares without any restrictions... Aside from what we agreed is banned, of course.

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I think I'm done with my current team. I just need to start the program and put them in and other things.

Some questions:

Can you put your own battle music in the music folder?
How does IVs work with this program?

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Music? I think that's all you need to do. Not sure, though, I mute it since it always randomizes to the more annoying battle themes.

IVs work just like they would normally. Assigned 0-31 and added to the stat based on level ratio to 100. EVs are handled the same, except that it's based on 255 max per stat, divided by four with an overall total of 510 EV points.

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Should I assume that everyone sets their IVs to 31 in all stats unless a particular move/moveset benefits from a 0?

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I don't see why anyone wouldn't do that since there isn't any reason to not use perfect IVs, aside from a set requiring it for Hidden Power or something else along those lines.

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I'd like to see this start to roll sooner or later.. Even if someone gets a "free pass" to continue. >_>

Although, I'd say the free pass is best off going to someone who has competitive experience.


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