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| Main - General Forum - Kafuka's CitiHall: "Scattered before you there are three tomes.." (15) |
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 Not okay Prophet of Celestia Level: 92    
Posts: 2099/2423 EXP: 7642292 Next: 114645 Since: 01-01-12 From: The Netherlands Last post: 1635 days Last view: 1310 days |
I like my applications to look like they belong. Let's just say I'd rather use IE6 or even 5 than 11, if it were all about the visual style. |
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pancakes Level: 82
Posts: 1331/1868 EXP: 5170813 Next: 38414 Since: 01-05-12 From: France Last post: 290 days Last view: 166 days |
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Not okay Prophet of Celestia Level: 92
Posts: 2106/2423 EXP: 7642292 Next: 114645 Since: 01-01-12 From: The Netherlands Last post: 1635 days Last view: 1310 days |
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 Roy Koopa My name is Sanger Zonvolt. I am the Sword that cleaves evil! Level: 152
Posts: 4401/7703 EXP: 43308275 Next: 993385 Since: 01-04-12 From: Sweden Last post: 666 days Last view: 630 days |
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Goddess of the Apocalypse Level: 196
Posts: 9762/14037 EXP: 106535866 Next: 772057 Since: 01-03-12 From: Boston, MA Last post: 66 days Last view: 14 days |
♥9762 ✿4103 ★59 UI consistency has basically died on the desktop these days, especially in Windows- right now I have on this desktop two 'desktop web apps', Chrome, Microsoft Outlook, and an ssh client running irssi-- what is consistency? |
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pancakes Level: 82
Posts: 1336/1868 EXP: 5170813 Next: 38414 Since: 01-05-12 From: France Last post: 290 days Last view: 166 days |
Among other things, whatever happened to the "title bars are for holding window titles" rule is a fucking mystery. Windows programs like Explorer or WMP have completely empty title bars (despite having window titles set). All the browsers don't hesitate to put tabs and other shit there, too, which reduces the title bar space available for, you know, moving your window.
Admittedly Firefox gives more titlebar height when not maximized. There was also that conversation a while ago in #x about driver config panel UIs. Those all compete to have their own fancy styling. Hell, I remember a tech/geek magazine that rated some hardware and their drivers, and for one that actually had a standard UI, it was considered 'stark' and a bad thing somehow. Well, to be honest, I like it when things have their own personality, but... let's just say Windows doesn't quite enjoy it. Also, it's bad when it looks like crap or doesn't respect established UI rules. Or when it does shit like using the system text color against a hardcoded background color. In an ideal world, UI styling would work in a standardized way across the OS, so for example a program could use its own UI style without having to hardcode colors everywhere, and you could tell the OS to let the program use its own style or to override it with the OS-wide style for whatever reason (or hell, why not, use your own per-app styles). But well, Windows isn't known for its legendary UI customization abilities. Don't get me started on 'desktop web apps'. ____________________ Kuribo64 - melonDS want some revolution in your coffee? |
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Posts: 692/3998 EXP: 12645996 Next: 25947 Since: 05-23-16 Last post: 51 days Last view: 51 days |
Posted by Kawa Yep, they are pretty much identical. Using my old Netscape, it told me to install Firefox 2 (which I'm using now) Cool stuff. It's weird how a browser from 2008 is so incompatible with today's stuff. |
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   Miracles Happen When you believe... Level: 250
Posts: 3339/25081 EXP: 248334875 Next: 2194136 Since: 07-16-12 From: Albany, NY OS: Windows 98 Last post: 16 hours Last view: 16 hours |
Heh, I remember trying to get Windows 3.11 to connect to the Internet back a couple years ago  Some sites wouldn't even load (the latest known Windows 3.1x browser dates back to I believe 2000 or 2001)"Miracles happen, when you believe..."
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Level: 106
Posts: 694/3998 EXP: 12645996 Next: 25947 Since: 05-23-16 Last post: 51 days Last view: 51 days |
The oldest operating system I could ever manage to get working was Windows 95. then I failed at getting it on internet and used a disc image/dosbox and not a real VM. |
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Not okay Prophet of Celestia Level: 92
Posts: 2108/2423 EXP: 7642292 Next: 114645 Since: 01-01-12 From: The Netherlands Last post: 1635 days Last view: 1310 days |
Posted by xkittenMeanwhile, I make webpages that work perfectly fine on browsers from the 90s. |
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Miracles Happen When you believe... Level: 250
Posts: 3340/25081 EXP: 248334875 Next: 2194136 Since: 07-16-12 From: Albany, NY OS: Windows 98 Last post: 16 hours Last view: 16 hours |
Yeah, my website is another one of those that looks like it's from the late 90s or early 2000s "Miracles happen, when you believe..."
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Goddess of the Apocalypse Level: 196
Posts: 9767/14037 EXP: 106535866 Next: 772057 Since: 01-03-12 From: Boston, MA Last post: 66 days Last view: 14 days |
♥9767 ✿4103 ★59 Reminds me, I should really just tear out the theme from my website and rewrite it from scratch; like, I think at the moment I load a web font that I don't even use, because it's a leftover... |
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Miracles Happen When you believe... Level: 250
Posts: 3343/25081 EXP: 248334875 Next: 2194136 Since: 07-16-12 From: Albany, NY OS: Windows 98 Last post: 16 hours Last view: 16 hours |
I use a simplistic theme for a reason: compatibility with older computers and browsers "Miracles happen, when you believe..."
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The Sorceress. Boing~ Level: 232
Posts: 14228/20774 EXP: 191855026 Next: 1228723 Since: 01-01-12 From: UK Last post: 449 days Last view: 2 hours |
I miss the simplistic look on so many websites. Now it's fancy styling, HD Graphical files and tons of scripts you can break by turning cookies off. The world could always use more heroes! |
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Goddess of the Apocalypse Level: 196
Posts: 9771/14037 EXP: 106535866 Next: 772057 Since: 01-03-12 From: Boston, MA Last post: 66 days Last view: 14 days |
♥9771 ✿4103 ★59 Posted by Sorceress Epele The user with the 991x1400 background bunnygirl is complaining about HD graphical files~? |
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The Sorceress. Boing~ Level: 232
Posts: 14230/20774 EXP: 191855026 Next: 1228723 Since: 01-01-12 From: UK Last post: 449 days Last view: 2 hours |
Posted by NicoleIt's not 20MB of images.Posted by Sorceress Epele The world could always use more heroes! |
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 Bullet Bill well then Level: 127
Posts: 4994/5515 EXP: 23693972 Next: 32594 Since: 01-29-14 From: ??? Last post: 444 days Last view: 390 days |
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The Sorceress. Boing~ Level: 232
Posts: 14236/20774 EXP: 191855026 Next: 1228723 Since: 01-01-12 From: UK Last post: 449 days Last view: 2 hours |
I don't use No Script. I already break the web enough with cookies disabled, I don't need to break it to oblivion. The world could always use more heroes! |
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Goddess of the Apocalypse Level: 196
Posts: 9776/14037 EXP: 106535866 Next: 772057 Since: 01-03-12 From: Boston, MA Last post: 66 days Last view: 14 days |
♥9776 ✿4103 ★59 I use NoScript, but you have to be really liberal with allowing JS nowadays, which I guess defeats most of the purpose... |
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Bullet Bill well then Level: 127
Posts: 4996/5515 EXP: 23693972 Next: 32594 Since: 01-29-14 From: ??? Last post: 444 days Last view: 390 days |
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