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| Main - General Forum - Kafuka's CitiHall: "Scattered before you there are three tomes.." (15) |
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 Not okay Prophet of Celestia Level: 95    
Posts: 2099/2423 EXP: 8562208 Next: 106399 Since: 01-01-12 From: The Netherlands Last post: 2683 days Last view: 998 days |
I like my applications to look like they belong. Let's just say I'd rather use IE6 or even 5 than 11, if it were all about the visual style. |
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pancakes Level: 85
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Not okay Prophet of Celestia Level: 95
Posts: 2106/2423 EXP: 8562208 Next: 106399 Since: 01-01-12 From: The Netherlands Last post: 2683 days Last view: 998 days |
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 Roy Koopa My name is Sanger Zonvolt. I am the Sword that cleaves evil! Level: 157
Posts: 4401/7703 EXP: 48523921 Next: 1055312 Since: 01-04-12 From: Sweden Last post: 1714 days Last view: 1677 days |
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Goddess of the Apocalypse Level: 203
Posts: 9762/14042 EXP: 119429652 Next: 1827003 Since: 01-03-12 From: Boston, MA Last post: 913 days Last view: 913 days |
♥9762 ✿5151 ★11 UI consistency has basically died on the desktop these days, especially in Windows- right now I have on this desktop two 'desktop web apps', Chrome, Microsoft Outlook, and an ssh client running irssi-- what is consistency? |
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pancakes Level: 85
Posts: 1336/1874 EXP: 5821712 Next: 76828 Since: 01-05-12 From: France Last post: 106 days Last view: 45 days |
Among other things, whatever happened to the "title bars are for holding window titles" rule is a fucking mystery. Windows programs like Explorer or WMP have completely empty title bars (despite having window titles set). All the browsers don't hesitate to put tabs and other shit there, too, which reduces the title bar space available for, you know, moving your window.
Admittedly Firefox gives more titlebar height when not maximized. There was also that conversation a while ago in #x about driver config panel UIs. Those all compete to have their own fancy styling. Hell, I remember a tech/geek magazine that rated some hardware and their drivers, and for one that actually had a standard UI, it was considered 'stark' and a bad thing somehow. Well, to be honest, I like it when things have their own personality, but... let's just say Windows doesn't quite enjoy it. Also, it's bad when it looks like crap or doesn't respect established UI rules. Or when it does shit like using the system text color against a hardcoded background color. In an ideal world, UI styling would work in a standardized way across the OS, so for example a program could use its own UI style without having to hardcode colors everywhere, and you could tell the OS to let the program use its own style or to override it with the OS-wide style for whatever reason (or hell, why not, use your own per-app styles). But well, Windows isn't known for its legendary UI customization abilities. Don't get me started on 'desktop web apps'. ____________________ Kuribo64 - melonDS want some revolution in your coffee? |
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Posts: 692/4003 EXP: 15091028 Next: 247177 Since: 05-23-16 Last post: 894 days Last view: 893 days |
Posted by Kawa Yep, they are pretty much identical. Using my old Netscape, it told me to install Firefox 2 (which I'm using now) Cool stuff. It's weird how a browser from 2008 is so incompatible with today's stuff. |
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    Miracles Happen When you believe... Level: 260
Posts: 3339/25311 EXP: 283504294 Next: 3733627 Since: 07-16-12 From: Albany, NY OS: Windows 98 Last post: 802 days Last view: 802 days |
Heh, I remember trying to get Windows 3.11 to connect to the Internet back a couple years ago  Some sites wouldn't even load (the latest known Windows 3.1x browser dates back to I believe 2000 or 2001)"Miracles happen, when you believe..."
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Posts: 694/4003 EXP: 15091028 Next: 247177 Since: 05-23-16 Last post: 894 days Last view: 893 days |
The oldest operating system I could ever manage to get working was Windows 95. then I failed at getting it on internet and used a disc image/dosbox and not a real VM. |
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Not okay Prophet of Celestia Level: 95
Posts: 2108/2423 EXP: 8562208 Next: 106399 Since: 01-01-12 From: The Netherlands Last post: 2683 days Last view: 998 days |
Posted by xkittenMeanwhile, I make webpages that work perfectly fine on browsers from the 90s. |
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Miracles Happen When you believe... Level: 260
Posts: 3340/25311 EXP: 283504294 Next: 3733627 Since: 07-16-12 From: Albany, NY OS: Windows 98 Last post: 802 days Last view: 802 days |
Yeah, my website is another one of those that looks like it's from the late 90s or early 2000s "Miracles happen, when you believe..."
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Goddess of the Apocalypse Level: 203
Posts: 9767/14042 EXP: 119429652 Next: 1827003 Since: 01-03-12 From: Boston, MA Last post: 913 days Last view: 913 days |
♥9767 ✿5151 ★11 Reminds me, I should really just tear out the theme from my website and rewrite it from scratch; like, I think at the moment I load a web font that I don't even use, because it's a leftover... |
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Miracles Happen When you believe... Level: 260
Posts: 3343/25311 EXP: 283504294 Next: 3733627 Since: 07-16-12 From: Albany, NY OS: Windows 98 Last post: 802 days Last view: 802 days |
I use a simplistic theme for a reason: compatibility with older computers and browsers "Miracles happen, when you believe..."
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The Sorceress. Boing~ Level: 240
Posts: 14228/20774 EXP: 214948995 Next: 2350966 Since: 01-01-12 From: UK Last post: 1497 days Last view: 5 min. |
I miss the simplistic look on so many websites. Now it's fancy styling, HD Graphical files and tons of scripts you can break by turning cookies off. The world could always use more heroes! |
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Goddess of the Apocalypse Level: 203
Posts: 9771/14042 EXP: 119429652 Next: 1827003 Since: 01-03-12 From: Boston, MA Last post: 913 days Last view: 913 days |
♥9771 ✿5151 ★11 Posted by Sorceress Epele The user with the 991x1400 background bunnygirl is complaining about HD graphical files~? |
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The Sorceress. Boing~ Level: 240
Posts: 14230/20774 EXP: 214948995 Next: 2350966 Since: 01-01-12 From: UK Last post: 1497 days Last view: 5 min. |
Posted by NicoleIt's not 20MB of images.Posted by Sorceress Epele The world could always use more heroes! |
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 Bullet Bill well then Level: 133
Posts: 4994/5515 EXP: 27151067 Next: 701600 Since: 01-29-14 From: ??? Last post: 1492 days Last view: 1438 days |
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The Sorceress. Boing~ Level: 240
Posts: 14236/20774 EXP: 214948995 Next: 2350966 Since: 01-01-12 From: UK Last post: 1497 days Last view: 5 min. |
I don't use No Script. I already break the web enough with cookies disabled, I don't need to break it to oblivion. The world could always use more heroes! |
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Goddess of the Apocalypse Level: 203
Posts: 9776/14042 EXP: 119429652 Next: 1827003 Since: 01-03-12 From: Boston, MA Last post: 913 days Last view: 913 days |
♥9776 ✿5151 ★11 I use NoScript, but you have to be really liberal with allowing JS nowadays, which I guess defeats most of the purpose... |
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Bullet Bill well then Level: 133
Posts: 4996/5515 EXP: 27151067 Next: 701600 Since: 01-29-14 From: ??? Last post: 1492 days Last view: 1438 days |
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