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KP
Posted on 08-22-12 02:24 AM Link | ID: 24097
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The other FIVE are fine and actually badass. I've got a problem with one of them though and so does everyone else, including the landlord, hereafter referred to as Dan. He posted something on the fridge recently that doesn't make a lot of sense, and I used the board's quote system to help me parse it all out for readability. This is the result.



Please don't freak out. I have sold my small picnic table and i needed the room in my truck to deliver it today. The delivery is by my school so i decided to save on the gas and deliver it on the way to school this morning. The couch which was in the back of my truck will only be out of my truck for one day. less than 12 hours really, and i will be putting the couch back in my truck where it belongs tonight at 9pm.
It seems to me that this is your way of dealing with a combination of things, such as temperature and having a peaceful place to study or do whatever. I'm cool with that. It's a little ghetto, but nothing that really gets to the point of bothering me. Others might, I dunno. Having your couch wherever it was for the time you mentioned isn't a big deal since 1) you notified us and 2) it wasn't there for very long.

It seems like every little thing i do pisses every one off
First of all, let me explain something to you that you obviously didn't understand or care to pay attention to when we talked last. You think you have rights and freedoms that you don't have. When you have six other guys whose view of what they're entitled to (or bubble) is of a [small, uniform] size and then another guy who comes into the picture believes he's entitled to have/do whatever he wants, that one guy is going to feel like the odd man out for being "picked on" by the other roommates. He's going to feel like his "freedoms" were being taken away, when in fact they weren't there in the first place. That's one of many reasons why the stunts you pull are largely unpopular with the rest of the household.

and then i only hear it from Dan for the first time.
I'll explain this soon.

I don't think it is fair for dan to have to deal with our little issues.
I agree, but they aren't "our" "little" issues. They're your big issues.

To be honest I Don't know if just one or all of the room mates hate me right now but i would rather get along with everyone.
This is commendable. But, you keep saying that you don't know what you can do to make things peaceful for all parties. Either you're just feigning ignorance to justify continuing to do it, or you actually just don't know. But, logic dictates you're smarter than you're letting on and you just decide to have things your way continually, and when someone else disagrees with you then it turns into armageddon.

The key to any successful relationship is proper communication.
This implies I want a relationship in the first place. I don't. You are my roommate. End of story. If a friendship starts because of a cordial, interpersonal interaction, that's cool, but I didn't move in here to make friends, I moved here to have a roof over my head.

Please i beg of you, If you have a problem with me and anything i do at all, MAN UP and communicate via text phone call letter or in person. Please don't let things build up until you cant stand it or me any more. I promise i am not as unapproachable as some have accused me.
See that? The end, there? Yeah, there's a big problem with that. Let me explain it to you.

There are some qualities you can't just judge of yourself. This is one of them. One cannot just decide that he's approachable. You, in very many cases, have proven to be unapproachable, and it's the judgments of others that ultimately decide this aspect of you. In other words, your approachability isn't necessarily decided by yourself. That being said, let's back up a little bit there... you want us to "man up" and face your obvious unapproachability? No, I don't think so, and this is why (as I said I would explain) instead of bringing these things up with you, they get brought up to Dan instead. And, like it or not, that's the way they're going to get brought up in the future.

Some of you have just seen me having a bad day. We all have those from time to time.
When I called you a dick, that was uncalled for. Having a bad day has nothing to do with it and using it as a justification for your actions is unacceptable. You'll notice I did not claim I was having a bad day.

If it does not bother you that much, just leave it alone and continue to not let it bother you. If it does bother you that much i am sure we can work out some type of "law" or happy compromise. I would much rather compromise and keep the freedom.
That's convenient... for you. As I said, you're the one who thinks they're entitled to more than what has been allotted, so "compromising" here would put us at a disadvantage, while you get to keep the "freedom" you think you have.

If we communicate nicely I believe that we can work things out peaceably and with sound logic, or things that make sense for both involved parties, or both parties and a third party mediator.
Tried all that already. Didn't work. Next?

I have a long list of manny things that bug me about living with a hand full of the things you all do, but I don't let them bother me so much that it consumes my happiness.
But it does bother you. When Zane asked you to turn off the TV you flipped out. That doesn't just happen for no reason.

In other words, some of the things that you guys do that bother me, I just leave them alone
lol

because i figure its a free country and we all pay rent here.
Seriously though, I see where you're going with all this. You're trying to tell us what you (pretend) to do so that we may see your example and follow your lead, then allude to the fact that if we don't (which we aren't) then we're bad people.

If i have made a mistake in the past, feel free to let me know what it is that I have done wrong so i can; A. repent and not do that any more, B. Change and not do that in the future, C. fix what was done so it doesn't effect your happiness. If I am currently doing something that makes you mad or un-happy I can change but only if you communicate and let me know what that is.
We'll communicate when we feel like our heads aren't going to get bitten off. Or we'll just be cordial with you and listen to your complaints so as not to create a confrontation even if we disagree with you. Meanwhile, we'll communicate with Dan.

This being said, I do not like bringing up the past over and over again unless it is constructive and can make a happier existence for you and i in the present or future.
But if we can't bring up the past, then we lose all the damning evidence and examples of everything I've laid out up to this point. (And there's even MORE that I didn't write!) There's that convenience again. Brilliant.

Also i don't like mixing previous experiences between room mates. If you have a problem with how i have treated a room mate in the past we can all meet and talk, but most of the things that i have done to wrong another room mate has been resolved with that room mate, so other room mates need not be involved in something that has; 1. happened in the past and 2. has been resolved with that room mate.
See above.

In the future i will try to do things that only make my fellow room mates happy, but i realize some are harder to please than others.
It only appears that way because some of us get backed up into corners and are forced into the situation (that shouldn't even be a situation in the first place) and others just play along for the sake of keeping the peace. If you are really going to make an effort to try, then you need to follow this communication to the tee and anything varying from it is implied intention that you just want to further your own selfish desires.

I promise i will try to make peace with in reason and logic. please, help me help you. I don't plan on moving any time soon so please let me know if there is anything i can do to make all of our existences here more of a peaceable one.
You don't plan on moving? I wonder why? Oh, I suppose it's because it's extremely hard to find a place like this that has everything you need (including utilities) at a price like this, with no contract, and no question about how you're going to pay your rent. You found the diamond in the rough with this place; and so did I. The difference between you and I is that I appreciate it and you expect it. Most places aren't going to offer the perks this place offers, even just a couple of them. You have it good here, yet you say it's "slavery". You say that you're in the middle of your career change and that you don't need this kind of stress. Honestly, you're going to find it more stressful living here than it would be to find some other poor soul to take you in somewhere else.

The point is, you're with a different bunch of people than you're used to wherever you came from, and you need to get over it. You pay your rent, and that includes your room and utilities. "Your" parking space doesn't exist; neither does mine. It's extra. The living room is extra. Use of cabinet space is extra. Fridges and washer/dryer? Yep, extra. I know I'm talking like it's my place, and it's not; but I've rented out to people before, I know how it works. And this is why Dan will never have a problem with me.




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Wow, that's a long note. Did you show him all your commentary on his note, or is this just for us?

I hate roommates. There's a reason I'm currently in a single-room dorm. I'm bad enough with my suitemates, I don't need someone in here making my room smell like pot and kicking me out until 3:00 so he can fuck some bimbo he picked up at a party. That happened last year when I tried to have a double room.

Roommates should be people I know, which of course isn't always possible (only people I knew prior to coming here were women, and OH NO A GUY CAN'T BE IN THE SAME ROOM AS A WOMAN, WHAT ARE YOU, MAD?). Worst thing he ever did was come in drunk as shit at 2:00, vomit all over the floor, wake me up, and leave the vomit there. This happened twice. The first time I woke up to the vomit, the second time I was actually out myself and I walked through the vomit in the middle of the night to get to my bed, not knowing the vomit was there.

Roommates suck.



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Roommates do tend to suck. I'd only room with someone I already know (whether in person or online), not a random stranger from the university dorm lottery.

In Germany I had to share a bathroom and kitchen with this guy (Paul, rhyming with howl) who was (a) a neat freak and (b) a slob. At the same time. He left dirty dishes caked with food in the sink for days, but he acted like the world ended if my shower left so much as a molecule of water on the floor. Which was troublesome because the shower stall's doors met at a 90° angle that was not even close to being a watertight seal.

Also, he'd go in there with his buddies, in the absolutely tiny shared kitchen/bathroom that was maybe 50 square feet max, and laugh and talk loudly in German for hours, including early in the morning. But he'd get really pissy if I made any noise at all in the evening.

Sigh.

(Don't worry Anya, I know you and I'm sure you'll be a much better roommate than this guy was.)

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Livin' with family is one thing, but roomies is just outta hand. I'd just wanna choke the shit outta 'em.

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You remember me mentioning my step brother firing a shotgun into his bed because he loads a gun and expects it to not fire?

Yeah, I might win for "dumbest roommate". :P


Still though, it can be quite annoying to deal with others at times. I prefer someone who can benefit me as much as I can them.
Sharing interests and the like. Sadly those types seem to be harder to find when you are still too shy to talk to some people.

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Posted by Marzen64
Wow, that's a long note. Did you show him all your commentary on his note, or is this just for us?
Honestly, I was just using the quote system to parse all this out in an easy-to-see format so as to keep it nice and simple for my dumbshit roommate to read. Then I figured I'd make a thread out of it here since it's bothering the shit out of me and it was all already written out.

This guy is stone cold fuck nuts. He's way outta control. There are seven of us living there, and people come and go, but I've never had any problems with anyone except for this cunt. I want to choke him and piss in his gas tank.



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I'd like to add to the roommate discussion with a story about what my suite-mate did to me.

Now, my suite-mate's actually a pretty nice guy. He's friendly and really wants to be pals with me. Only problem is he uses the word "gangsta" to describe himself. He's not really someone I'd wanna hang with.

I humor him anyway cause I'm nice and don't know how to say no, so he was like "COME MEET MY FRIENDS" and he dragged me into his room. As soon as I entered, I had a cup shoved into my hands and was told "drink it". They would not take no for answer. I smelled it and it smelled like shit but they practically forced me to drink it. Turns out it was sprite mixed with hand sanitizer.

Afterwards they proceeded to make fun of my timid and awkward nature, asking me about my porn watching habits, and they forced me to watch a video that involved a lot of ass shakage. They invited me to go to a party, which I politely declined, stating I'd rather spend the night working on my book. They then made me explain the nature of my high fantasy book with elves and demons to them. Eventually I managed to slip away.

That was not a fun time.



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I can't live with other people at all. Even during school vacation, it was so bad that at the end I had to sleep on the street.


KP
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I might be moving soon. Another note on the fridge showed up. Here's the note, along with my reply.


I am sorry we are not communicating very well. I apologize for last night but it just seems like we get no where when we try and communicate. Also, I know you don't like me but it just seems like you just want to attack me any chance you get.
I can't believe you claim to have logic and tell me I don't have any. Whatever logic you think you have is definitely not of Webster's definition. Are you seriously trying to tell me that you know I don't like you and then wonder why the fuck I want to attack you? Are you seriously that slow?

I think if we just keep things simple and moving forward things will eventually work out.
No, it won't. I'm not playing your dumbass games. I'm not going to step on eggshells for you either. It's not going to work because it's damn clear that you are not going to get it.

feel free to add any positive feed back on specific things i can do to make it so you and i can be civil again.
David, I should not HAVE to tell you what you need to do. You're asking me a question you already know the answer to but I know if you don't like anything else then it just gets ignored. I'm not going to baby you, I'm not your father, so quit asking me. Figure it the fuck out on your own.

It seems like every time i ask you what i can do you just attack my character with nothing specific about what i can actually do or not do. We don't have to be friends but the last 24 hours it feels like you want to kick the crap out of me.
That's because I DON'T LIKE YOU! You already know, and we're back to you wondering why the hell you feel this way. You wonder why I've been that way with you lately? Among many other reasons, it's because you've been PMSing worse than any girl I've ever seen. So what should you do? Scrape the blood out of your pussy and own up to your own dumbass shortcomings.

Violence or any other retaliation is not the answer and you will not see me retaliate, or instigate violence.
Who said anything about me hitting you? The only person that mentioned anything about violence was you just right there. You're accusing me of being violent because you cannot deal with an idea that's all in your head?

I don't even get a head-nod or a hello when i come in this humble abode, and that makes this a very hostile environment for me to live in.
You seem to be fishing around for someone to tell you to move out. I can think of a few people (Which is really bad in a house of SEVEN, seeing as a "few" means ">2") that wish this, but it seems like nobody wants to step up and support this idea.

I could understand if you were really shy but your not so all i am getting is this violent hate vibe from you.
No shit.

Remember i pay rent too.
Yeah, well, maybe you should stop.

What, specifically, can i do to make your life better? What am i doing wrong right now.
I hope this letter spells out what you obviously missed in my previous one. FUCK OFF.

Specifically what you are doing wrong is keeping your musiC (especially the lower tones) too loud. Headphones would be nice or just a lower volume.
If you had read all of my texts that night, you would know that I said that what you asked wasn't an unreasonable request and that I would comply. I might ignore you (and not reply to your texts) but I would comply. Why are you still bringing it up? I'm fine with using headphones sometimes.

Please feel free to text me if my music is too loud for you and i would be happy to turn it down or off.
When I'm in my room, I can't hear any music, just you slamming doors and banging shit against the wall.

So to sum up with two simple questions: What can i do for you to make your life better? What am i doing wrong, specifically that i can do better or not do at all?
You need to understand this: that you're in America, but you are under the delusion that you're free of all the other rules and guidelines that extend from that. It's a free country, but you still can't do whatever the fuck you think you want. You're an inconsiderate prick, and the decisions that you make every day prove it. I'm thankful that you're at least going to school right now or else I'd be paying an extra $50-$100 for utilities.
Told my landlord that it's either me or him that's moving out.



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