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| Main - msg db 'Computer Address',0xa - So what about that Dvorak layout, hm? |
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Posts: 119/2423 EXP: 8298456 Next: 58201 Since: 01-01-12 From: The Netherlands Last post: 2371 days Last view: 686 days |
It's something that's been on my mind quite a bit today. Completely different layout because fuck typewriter jams, right? Seems to be much faster to use, too.
I would consider switching my layout to Dvorak, but I've been qwertying all my life and can't take off these keycaps to reorder them. 
Fuck it, let's see what happens  |
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The kinda problem with Dvorak is that it messes with your keyboard shortcuts. Easy mnemonics like Ctrl+X, Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V won't work anymore. |
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Posts: 120/2423 EXP: 8298456 Next: 58201 Since: 01-01-12 From: The Netherlands Last post: 2371 days Last view: 686 days |
Okay fun times, over. I cannot use this without some external keyboard or something X3 |
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~< Outta here. |
I should rearrange all the keys on my keyboard to match Dvorak layout...
...then switch to it like a boss. |
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Posts: 121/2423 EXP: 8298456 Next: 58201 Since: 01-01-12 From: The Netherlands Last post: 2371 days Last view: 686 days |
I would if I could but this laptop doesn't let me  |
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Eh. I doubt this keyboard lets me remove the buttons, at least I never got it to do that.  |
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Posts: 122/2423 EXP: 8298456 Next: 58201 Since: 01-01-12 From: The Netherlands Last post: 2371 days Last view: 686 days |
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That. That is why I would need an external keyboard. Where the fuck would I get one in Dvorak layout anyway? Last time I checked the store, there was only qwerty |
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Goddess of the Apocalypse Level: 201
Posts: 42/14042 EXP: 115749227 Next: 1397401 Since: 01-03-12 From: Boston, MA Last post: 600 days Last view: 600 days |
♥42 ✿4838 ★30 I haven't seen much benefit to switching to Dvorak... I type too fast for my mind to keep up with anyway.
I think you can order dvorak keyboards on some websites, but it seems like a hassle to go to... |
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Not okay Prophet of Celestia Level: 94
Posts: 124/2423 EXP: 8298456 Next: 58201 Since: 01-01-12 From: The Netherlands Last post: 2371 days Last view: 686 days |
I type plenty fast on qwerty, really... so I guess there's no reason at all to try and switch |
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Posts: 236/295 EXP: 352478 Next: 17969 Since: 01-03-12 From: Scotland Last post: 3917 days Last view: 3917 days |
I guess it's just a case of wanting to try something new.. but then you realise there's nothing really benefiting you in the change. |
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I certainly had fun typing in cypher on the staff channel  |
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I tired this once (without rearranging the keys) Having used QWERTY all my life it was not a good feel.
I used to use a keyboard from Japan back when I was taking Japanese. While not to a great extent, there are some rearrangements of where some of the quotation, comma, and etc keystrokes are. That didn't take too long to get used to. I suppose if you wanted to try, you could get used to a larger change.  Kawa:Yeah, but it could almost be deciphered!The Dynamic Profile Administrator™"Never Knows Best" Note: if you can see this my layout broke. ALL THE CREDITS WILL BE REVEALED!! 'Victory Noriko' by @thatsheepagain. 'Chibi Dance Noriko' by @Haru__Kitsu. 'Deity's Night Out (Featuring Gabbie)' by @thatsheepagain Noriko Emotes by @Haru__Kitsu. Side Bar Noriko by @thatsheepagain 'Noriko's Nature Walk' by @projectTiGER_ Emotive Noriko by @thatsheepagain. "Space Candy Noriko" by BerryVerrine. "Super Sharp Noriko" by Xionfes. A gift illustration from the wonderful EverKinzPony! "Magical Girl Noriko" by @cute_hospital! "Patient Chibi Noriko" by @Ruii_ki! 'Dapper '60s Noriko' by @thatsheepagain. 'Shiny Chibi Noriko' by @inioli. 'Flower Veil Noriko' by @Sushiee_. 'Noriko in Realism' by @_Sarybuu. 'Noriko's Midnight Adventure' by @projectTiGER_ 'Yukata Noriko' by @yunyunmaru_ 'Birthday Wishes Noriko' by @thatsheepagain |
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Posted by Jet Actually that's false. DVORAK was made with ergonomics in mind. So was QWERTY, but the idea was for it to be anti-ergonomic. Typewriters get fucked up and broken if they're perfect ergonomically. Spring keyboards are the best, and I'd like to at least learn DVORAK one day, but having used QWERTY for my whole life... I feel like it'll be a nightmare. And I won't get to hunt and peck. And how long would it take to recover my typing speed? My QWERTY sped is probably around 100 wpm or something silly and high like that. I'll bet at DVORAK within a month I could to 50-60. ____________________ |
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I meant in Kawa's case, not in general. |
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I'd probably not get along too well.. But that's mostly I'm too familiar with the qwerty layout. :/
Hell, I struggle with any forced abc layouts placed in front of me sometimes. The world could always use more heroes! |
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Posted by LilianaIt must be harder to undo things with a German (QWERTZ) layout. Or do you just use a QWERTY keyboard? ____________________ I don't give a flying feather |
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You're of course right, the fact that Undo and Redo are swapped on German keyboards causes lots of trouble. :/ |
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I learned about that QWERTZ after one of my German friends was complaining about the hotkeys being a bit off in Ragnarok Online.
"why is it my key for ZED is switch with the Y?" ...and we went over this for about 5-10 minutes until I had him read off the letters on his keyboard finally and figured it out. Yay! ____________________ |
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For me, with how fucked up my left wrist is, it's definitely worth it... but I would have to do it on a separate keyboard, and not with my main keyboard (which is of course my laptop). ____________________ |
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