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knuck |
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Paragoomba Level: 21 Posts: 35/73 EXP: 42842 Next: 7101 Since: 01-03-12 Last post: 4522 days Last view: 4503 days |
The old acmlmboard software would display the post layout used at the time of your post not the updated one. I suggest you give the option to see layouts based on post-time, not just the newest.
I'm not sure how posts and layouts are implemented in the database, but I know how to make this work without redundant data on the posts_text table (and I'm sure Bouche knows how to do it too). I'd love to see this implemented~ |
Jet |
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It does make the post layout thread seem like a waste in terms of progression posts in its current state. |
Lili~ ♥ |
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Queen Lesbian of Kafuka Level: 161 Posts: 122/8412 EXP: 52978909 Next: 1134208 Since: 01-06-12 Last post: 2975 days Last view: 1498 days |
Not sure if this is such a good idea. I mean yeah it has historical merit but once the host dies you see stuff like in the I1 archive. :/ |
Nicole |
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Goddess of the Apocalypse Level: 200 Posts: 52/14042 EXP: 114291723 Next: 837666 Since: 01-03-12 From: Boston, MA Last post: 479 days Last view: 479 days |
♥52 ✿4717 ★57 The big issue I would see is the ABXD-style CSS... as those would get overwritten if I made a post with a different layout on the same page, which might be an issue especially for people using larger page limits...
Though it's probably not too important, as having two posts on the same page of a thread with different layouts, and the CSS interfering in a negative way, is probably not too common. |
knuck |
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Paragoomba Level: 21 Posts: 36/73 EXP: 42842 Next: 7101 Since: 01-03-12 Last post: 4522 days Last view: 4503 days |
I also want to have a strictly board-hosted layout, but since it's a big suggestion, I'll leave it for when/if I ever get to work on the code. |
GreyMaria |
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~< Outta here. |
Here's a thought: instead of relying on the board to store your layout code per-post, disable the post layout for a single post and manually implement it in your post body. |
Nicole |
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Goddess of the Apocalypse Level: 200 Posts: 54/14042 EXP: 114291723 Next: 837666 Since: 01-03-12 From: Boston, MA Last post: 479 days Last view: 479 days |
♥54 ✿4717 ★57 Posted by GreyMaria Of course, this has implications for anyone who might want to quote your post... |
GreyMaria |
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~< Outta here. |
Posted by NicolePosted by GreyMaria Laziness killed the lazy bastard. Besides, this plan's only intended for the layout thread, which is the only reason knuck's suggestion would ever serve any purpose. |
knuck |
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Paragoomba Level: 21 Posts: 37/73 EXP: 42842 Next: 7101 Since: 01-03-12 Last post: 4522 days Last view: 4503 days |
Posted by GreyMariaUh, no. People mention layours/signatures often in post. But since it has changed to a newer one, a post mentioning an old layout will make no sense. |
Kawa |
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Not okay Prophet of Celestia Level: 94 Posts: 142/2423 EXP: 8194008 Next: 162649 Since: 01-01-12 From: The Netherlands Last post: 2250 days Last view: 565 days |
Really? What's next, persistant custom titles and avatars? |
knuck |
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Paragoomba Level: 21 Posts: 38/73 EXP: 42842 Next: 7101 Since: 01-03-12 Last post: 4522 days Last view: 4503 days |
Posted by KawaNeat idea! |
Arisotura |
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pancakes Level: 84 Posts: 37/1870 EXP: 5553345 Next: 108607 Since: 01-05-12 From: France Last post: 50 days Last view: 50 days |
Next great idea: when you edit a post, the new post gets added under the old post!
Seriously, I'm not in support of this feature. If users get lazy and just reuse their old layout's stylesheet instead of making a new one, the old layouts break rather badly. As it has already been said, same problem with hosts disappearing (see AB archives), and such a feature would conflict with the NN-style sidebars (old posts would have a mix of the old layout and new sidebars, which could look quite weird). Technically speaking, it's also causing a lot of bloat, since a copy of the user's header and signature has to be stored with each and every post. To make it worse, there are post edits, which create new posts_text entries, a feature AB1 didn't have. On an administration point of view, it'd also make removing offending layouts harder. With the current method, all that has to be done is edit the user's profile, et voila. With the AB1 method, you'd need to edit each and every post made with the offending layout (or modify the board to filter it out, like Xkeeper does). ____________________ Kuribo64 - melonDS want some revolution in your coffee? |
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Red Goomba Flipping paper plumber Level: 15 Posts: 20/35 EXP: 14228 Next: 2156 Since: 12-30-11 Last post: 3877 days Last view: 3876 days |
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11 Hit Combo: Mother's Rosario Level: 109 Posts: 261/3393 EXP: 13581175 Next: 378470 Since: 12-30-11 From: Akron, Ohio; USA Last post: 126 days Last view: 1 day |
My concern with this relates to what ended up happening with I1. Mostly you'll run into images that are no longer stored anywhere. If you look at Acmlm's archive you'll see this clearly. The other big issue is, Bouche doesn't have unlimited space. Another issue was, if someone had a really bad layout.. in this case a broken css or something.. it would need to be cleared out by SQL query. All of these can be solved. Mostly with admin side tools, and a mode for everyone to toggle (current only, or at the time of posting)
I'd like to see what everyone else thinks as well. The Dynamic Profile Administrator™"Never Knows Best" Note: if you can see this my layout broke. ALL THE CREDITS WILL BE REVEALED!! 'Victory Noriko' by @thatsheepagain. 'Chibi Dance Noriko' by @Haru__Kitsu. 'Deity's Night Out (Featuring Gabbie)' by @thatsheepagain Noriko Emotes by @Haru__Kitsu. Side Bar Noriko by @thatsheepagain 'Noriko's Nature Walk' by @projectTiGER_ Emotive Noriko by @thatsheepagain. "Space Candy Noriko" by BerryVerrine. "Super Sharp Noriko" by Xionfes. A gift illustration from the wonderful EverKinzPony! "Magical Girl Noriko" by @cute_hospital! "Patient Chibi Noriko" by @Ruii_ki! 'Dapper '60s Noriko' by @thatsheepagain. 'Shiny Chibi Noriko' by @inioli. 'Flower Veil Noriko' by @Sushiee_. 'Noriko in Realism' by @_Sarybuu. 'Noriko's Midnight Adventure' by @projectTiGER_ 'Yukata Noriko' by @yunyunmaru_ 'Birthday Wishes Noriko' by @thatsheepagain |
Epele |
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The Sorceress. Boing~ Level: 237 Posts: 175/20774 EXP: 205705538 Next: 2273396 Since: 01-01-12 From: UK Last post: 1063 days Last view: 7 hours |
I find the "auto-updating" tends to prune out a lot of horror layouts. I'm not sure I'd see the benefit of it.
An alternative though: Store the layout connected to the user profile as a separate "revision". Skipping layouts not used for posting. That way, if one is breaking the board or is horrific, it only takes one nuking. The world could always use more heroes! |
GreyMaria |
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~< Outta here. |
While we're on the topic of layouts, though, I feel I should mention that knuck's is making the page stretch horizontally... without stretching any tables. What the fuck? |
Jet |
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Knuck is a man who knows how to stretch the wrong things |
knuck |
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Paragoomba Level: 21 Posts: 39/73 EXP: 42842 Next: 7101 Since: 01-03-12 Last post: 4522 days Last view: 4503 days |
Posted by Mega-MarioThat never (or at least not often) happened before on 1.X versions. Posted by Mega-Mario I don't really know what are those sidebars you speak of. I'm still with a 1.95 mindset. Posted by Mega-MarioYou obviously don't know what you're talking about when it comes to the implementation of such a feature. Posted by Mega-MarioYou obviously don't know what you're talking about when it comes to the implementation of such a feature. Posted by GreyMariaFixed. This feature makes the posts more consistent for readers in the future. The ideal would to disallow any HTML tags on posts and add a WYSIWYG layout maker to edit profile (I know, it'd take time). PS: This is intended as an option in edit profile, not to change the current behavior. |
Jet |
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Unbanned indefinitely. Level: 38 Posts: 261/295 EXP: 348041 Next: 22406 Since: 01-03-12 From: Scotland Last post: 3796 days Last view: 3796 days |
Kawa already had a WYSIWYG layout maker on his board.. Wouldn't be too hard to work on that and make it just attach to your profile rather than just outputting the css and html for you to copy paste.. |
Kawa |
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Not okay Prophet of Celestia Level: 94 Posts: 153/2423 EXP: 8194008 Next: 162649 Since: 01-01-12 From: The Netherlands Last post: 2250 days Last view: 565 days |
Posted by knuckBullshit. I've been through the archives just recently, and a lot of layouts are just plain broken, depending on where their component parts were stored. The sidebar is where your pony's at. Posted by JetThat's what the Install button does, actually. |
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