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What is your favourite browser?
Opera
Firefox
Chrome
Safari
Internet Explorer
Other (no derivative of the main 5)
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Posted by Kiyoshi
running a browser as an admin has never been a good idea.

Generally running the system as an admin is not a good idea. But the Windows permission system pretty much encourages you to be an admin at all times.

ActiveX was a pretty big catastrophe, that's true. These days, however, most malware programmers target browser plugins like Flash or Java, as they are available pretty much everywhere and make easy targets.

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Posted by Liliana
Posted by Kiyoshi
running a browser as an admin has never been a good idea.

Generally running the system as an admin is not a good idea. But the Windows permission system pretty much encourages you to be an admin at all times.

ActiveX was a pretty big catastrophe, that's true. These days, however, most malware programmers target browser plugins like Flash or Java, as they are available pretty much everywhere and make easy targets.
ActiveX was not a bigger disaster than Firefox's XUL (the horrendously coded extension platform), which has been exploited many times as well. Also, as the Firefox Myths page I linked earlier explains, ActiveX isn't as bad as most people think.

In Windows XP you have 2 options. One is the Linux-type option, log in as a normal user, and use "Run As Administrator" and enter your password for installations.
The second option is easier, log in as admin and run your browser with something like Sandboxie or DropMyRights.

The true solution however is the very misunderstood User Account Control in Vista/7.

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Posted by Kiyoshi
ActiveX was not a bigger disaster than Firefox's XUL (the horrendously coded extension platform), which has been exploited many times as well. Also, as the Firefox Myths page I linked earlier explains, ActiveX isn't as bad as most people think.

The Firefox Myths page also claims that fans of Firefox believe in the Book of Mozilla as a religious text, so I really don't know if it's the smartest page in the world.

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There's claiming that they take a joke religious page seriously, and there's countering the idea that Firefox fanboys don't have a religious-level attachment by showing that Firefox contains a joke religious text.

Which is it?

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Posted by Nicole
Posted by Kiyoshi
ActiveX was not a bigger disaster than Firefox's XUL (the horrendously coded extension platform), which has been exploited many times as well. Also, as the Firefox Myths page I linked earlier explains, ActiveX isn't as bad as most people think.

The Firefox Myths page also claims that fans of Firefox believe in the Book of Mozilla as a religious text, so I really don't know if it's the smartest page in the world.
Even some Firefox users like Firefox Myths. It counters the typical fanboy arguments by presenting interesting facts.
As the author says, he has nothing against Firefox itself. He has something against the fanboyism around it, and the myths proclaimed in the aggressive "Rediscover the web" campaign.

We Opera users have nothing against Firefox users either, although we counter the fanboy arguments.
Opera software endorses open web standards, and even embraced Mozilla's excellent APNG standard, something that can not be said of the big companies.

Edit: is this ball animating for you?


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Posted by Kawa
There's claiming that they take a joke religious page seriously, and there's countering the idea that Firefox fanboys don't have a religious-level attachment by showing that Firefox contains a joke religious text.

Which is it?

Well, yes, it's the latter. :P But the Book of Mozilla dates back to Netscape, and I dunno if anyone other than me was attached to that.

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Posted by Nicole
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There's claiming that they take a joke religious page seriously, and there's countering the idea that Firefox fanboys don't have a religious-level attachment by showing that Firefox contains a joke religious text.

Which is it?

Well, yes, it's the latter. :P But the Book of Mozilla dates back to Netscape, and I dunno if anyone other than me was attached to that.
I remember Netscape vs. IE being 50/50 and then MS included IE with Windows 98 and the Netscape fanboys were like FUUUUUUUUUUUUUU...

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Posted by Kiyoshi
I remember Netscape vs. IE being 50/50 and then MS included IE with Windows 98 and the Netscape fanboys were like FUUUUUUUUUUUUUU...

The thing about Netscape versus IE is (and I would never have admitted this at the time), back then IE was actually better.

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Posted by Nicole
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I remember Netscape vs. IE being 50/50 and then MS included IE with Windows 98 and the Netscape fanboys were like FUUUUUUUUUUUUUU...

The thing about Netscape versus IE is (and I would never have admitted this at the time), back then IE was actually better.
/me <blink>s

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I remember Netscape vs. IE being 50/50 and then MS included IE with Windows 98 and the Netscape fanboys were like FUUUUUUUUUUUUUU...

The thing about Netscape versus IE is (and I would never have admitted this at the time), back then IE was actually better.
/me s

Netscape Communicator 4 had to refresh the page when you changed the size of the window.

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The Netscape source is publically available. It is a mess.

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WE SHOULD EXPLOIT THIS :D


Aww, Firefox doesn't seem to allow <blink> in a <marquee>.

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WE SHOULD EXPLOIT THIS :D


Aww, Firefox doesn't seem to allow in a .
Neither does <h1><blink>OPERA</blink></h1>

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Sure it does, you just need to put the tags in the right order.

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WE SHOULD EXPLOIT THIS :D


Aww, Firefox doesn't seem to allow in a .
Neither does

OPERA

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Sure it does, you just need to put the tags in the right order.
Wow how did you do that without needing to be quoted?
<script>alert'Oh hai';</script>

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A'ight, stop that! It's silly.

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Posted by Kiyoshi
Edit: is this ball animating for you?
It does.

Also, (as I've said) I use Firefox purely because of the Pentadactyl addon, which adds Vim-style keybindings to Firefox.
Though, I might switch to another browser such as Luakit because it does basically the same thing but is more lightweight.

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I used to use Netscape and was stupidly loyal, at about 12 years old, until my brother told me about Firefox. He FORCED me to use it and I kinda liked it so I've used it ever since. After it broke once, I gave Chrome a try for about half a year and I liked it but eventually I switched back to Firefox, after Chrome broke as well. I'm stickin' with Firefox I think, cause Chrome is fast but.... not much else.

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What the hell with the html bombing.. Seriously!

I see a general opinion from a fair few of "I'm happy with it, so I'll stay with it" in general. >_>


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