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11 Hit Combo: Mother's Rosario Level: 109 Posts: 2450/3393 EXP: 13563482 Next: 396163 Since: 12-30-11 From: Akron, Ohio; USA Last post: 114 days Last view: 3 days |
While we are discussing any future plans, the current code base has a lot of work it could use to make it better. I'd still like to get it to a state where it more likely to be used by others. Plenty of variables need to be refined so they don't constantly throw errors and warnings. I have an updated todo list and I can give anyone access to if it you are interested.
Working towards any future version will take some time, so while we talk about it, we should focus on what we got too. The Dynamic Profile Administrator™"Never Knows Best" Note: if you can see this my layout broke. ALL THE CREDITS WILL BE REVEALED!! 'Victory Noriko' by @thatsheepagain. 'Chibi Dance Noriko' by @Haru__Kitsu. 'Deity's Night Out (Featuring Gabbie)' by @thatsheepagain Noriko Emotes by @Haru__Kitsu. Side Bar Noriko by @thatsheepagain 'Noriko's Nature Walk' by @projectTiGER_ Emotive Noriko by @thatsheepagain. "Space Candy Noriko" by BerryVerrine. "Super Sharp Noriko" by Xionfes. A gift illustration from the wonderful EverKinzPony! "Magical Girl Noriko" by @cute_hospital! "Patient Chibi Noriko" by @Ruii_ki! 'Dapper '60s Noriko' by @thatsheepagain. 'Shiny Chibi Noriko' by @inioli. 'Flower Veil Noriko' by @Sushiee_. 'Noriko in Realism' by @_Sarybuu. 'Noriko's Midnight Adventure' by @projectTiGER_ 'Yukata Noriko' by @yunyunmaru_ 'Birthday Wishes Noriko' by @thatsheepagain |
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pancakes Level: 84 Posts: 630/1870 EXP: 5546102 Next: 115850 Since: 01-05-12 From: France Last post: 37 days Last view: 37 days |
The issue of SQLAlchemy and ORMs in general is that they apparently tend to make simple queries really simple... and more complex stuff a nightmare.
IMO sending raw SQL would work best. Maybe with something like ABXD's querybuilder, so we're sure there is no SQL injection anywhere. ____________________ Kuribo64 - melonDS want some revolution in your coffee? |
Emuz |
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11 Hit Combo: Mother's Rosario Level: 109 Posts: 2454/3393 EXP: 13563482 Next: 396163 Since: 12-30-11 From: Akron, Ohio; USA Last post: 114 days Last view: 3 days |
Posted by StapleButter We don't have to use SQLAlchemy. In fact I belive Ninji found it very restrictive. It does have some very powerful features we could incorporate on our own. Mostly DB agnostic functionality, and the ability to self generate schema. We don't have to support every db variant either, I would say MySQL is a must, and an attempt at PostresSQL due to the way self deployed python works. If we prepare the queries it will go a long way. The Dynamic Profile Administrator™"Never Knows Best" Note: if you can see this my layout broke. ALL THE CREDITS WILL BE REVEALED!! 'Victory Noriko' by @thatsheepagain. 'Chibi Dance Noriko' by @Haru__Kitsu. 'Deity's Night Out (Featuring Gabbie)' by @thatsheepagain Noriko Emotes by @Haru__Kitsu. Side Bar Noriko by @thatsheepagain 'Noriko's Nature Walk' by @projectTiGER_ Emotive Noriko by @thatsheepagain. "Space Candy Noriko" by BerryVerrine. "Super Sharp Noriko" by Xionfes. A gift illustration from the wonderful EverKinzPony! "Magical Girl Noriko" by @cute_hospital! "Patient Chibi Noriko" by @Ruii_ki! 'Dapper '60s Noriko' by @thatsheepagain. 'Shiny Chibi Noriko' by @inioli. 'Flower Veil Noriko' by @Sushiee_. 'Noriko in Realism' by @_Sarybuu. 'Noriko's Midnight Adventure' by @projectTiGER_ 'Yukata Noriko' by @yunyunmaru_ 'Birthday Wishes Noriko' by @thatsheepagain |
Emuz |
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11 Hit Combo: Mother's Rosario Level: 109 Posts: 2466/3393 EXP: 13563482 Next: 396163 Since: 12-30-11 From: Akron, Ohio; USA Last post: 114 days Last view: 3 days |
I've open this up to everyone so it is open to anyone who may be interested. Keep in mind while most of the chatter is about a possible recoding in the future our main focus is with 2.x. If you have ideas, experiences, or anything you would like to share about either 2.5+, future python/other languages coding suggestions, or wanting to help let us know. The Dynamic Profile Administrator™"Never Knows Best" Note: if you can see this my layout broke. ALL THE CREDITS WILL BE REVEALED!! 'Victory Noriko' by @thatsheepagain. 'Chibi Dance Noriko' by @Haru__Kitsu. 'Deity's Night Out (Featuring Gabbie)' by @thatsheepagain Noriko Emotes by @Haru__Kitsu. Side Bar Noriko by @thatsheepagain 'Noriko's Nature Walk' by @projectTiGER_ Emotive Noriko by @thatsheepagain. "Space Candy Noriko" by BerryVerrine. "Super Sharp Noriko" by Xionfes. A gift illustration from the wonderful EverKinzPony! "Magical Girl Noriko" by @cute_hospital! "Patient Chibi Noriko" by @Ruii_ki! 'Dapper '60s Noriko' by @thatsheepagain. 'Shiny Chibi Noriko' by @inioli. 'Flower Veil Noriko' by @Sushiee_. 'Noriko in Realism' by @_Sarybuu. 'Noriko's Midnight Adventure' by @projectTiGER_ 'Yukata Noriko' by @yunyunmaru_ 'Birthday Wishes Noriko' by @thatsheepagain |
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Unspecificed Cooling Off Period. Be Safe Bisexual Empress of the Stolen Title? Level: 143 Posts: 5020/6751 EXP: 35713487 Next: 118321 Since: 07-17-13 Last post: 3417 days Last view: 3324 days |
Now that the "Acmlmboard, where's it going?" thread is public, I might as well publicly post my plans. So I made a private test board over two weeks ago that Danielle, Epele, Lili~ ♥, Nicole, and Taryn know about. So far, I've added breadcrumbs to some of the administrator pages and even added the option to edit the PoRA through management.php, but it's really nothing to sneeze at. Just simple code swapping such as using existing code as templates for code in pages.
I've actually been interested in Acmlmboard development since June 2014. I have yet to learn PHP, though but that'll come with time. But it looks like future Acmlmboard will no longer use PHP. From talking to Epele and Arisotura, I came to the conclusion that Acmlmboard 2.6 will have to be completely rewritten from scratch and from reading posts in this thread, it looks like the 2.6 rewrite has already begun. I plan on hopefully working on Acmlmboard 2.5x, Acmlmboard 2.6x, and more specifically, Acmlmboard 2.7x. Acmlmboard 2.7 is a future version that I thought up of to work on while 2.6 is being rewritten in the meantime. Currently, 2.7 doesn't exist yet but my test board can be considered a precursor to 2.7. Posted by SquidEmpress on her 2.5.2 test board I mentioned the Kuriblog/BlogXD homepage and deleted posts tracker to Emuz yesterday through query on the IRC. Whether future Acmlmboard will continue to use PHP or another programming language, it'll be a while for me to teach myself, as I'm not a fast learner. ____________________ Sunshine Realm Welcome to Aqmlm's, the only board with Al-Aq'mlmistrators! |
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Unspecificed Cooling Off Period. Be Safe Bisexual Empress of the Stolen Title? Level: 143 Posts: 5028/6751 EXP: 35713487 Next: 118321 Since: 07-17-13 Last post: 3417 days Last view: 3324 days |
I am glad to announce that Acmlmboard now has an email obscurer! Credit goes to Epele for the code and Arisotura, Dirbaio, Kawa, and the rest of the ABXD team as I was inspired by ABXD and Blargboard. I originally wrote up the code myself but it was a bit messy Epele provided me with code she made.
Scrydan had a proposal for an email obscurer which I personally didn't like. I'd rather go the ABXD/Blargboard route, which is having users able to see other users' emails if they can edit user's profiles, and also make having an email optional, like it is right now. In profile.php, replace
with
In editprofile.php, insert
after Line 272, and insert
after Line 441. In MySQL, go to the Structure view for the users table. Make a news column after the redirtype column. Name the column emailhide and give a value of 1 for the INT type. For the default, choose "As defined:" and give it a value of zero. ____________________ Sunshine Realm Welcome to Aqmlm's, the only board with Al-Aq'mlmistrators! |
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Porcupo no Level: 38 Posts: 37/313 EXP: 363536 Next: 6911 Since: 02-02-13 From: Maryland Last post: 2476 days Last view: 2445 days |
mmmm I spell opportunity.
I'm quite good at C#, but I'll have to look up on webserver stuff, because that's a whole new era for me. But this will be a learning opportunity and can help the board software too. |
Emuz |
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11 Hit Combo: Mother's Rosario Level: 109 Posts: 2471/3393 EXP: 13563482 Next: 396163 Since: 12-30-11 From: Akron, Ohio; USA Last post: 114 days Last view: 3 days |
Well best of luck to you! This code is an ambitious effort that's for sure. I do have a few suggestions:
Before you even get serious about coding, master a SCM (or Source Code Managment) system. We use 'git', but you could use any of the others really (hg, svn, etc). This would allow you to 'commit' changes and allow you keep track of when and who. This also allows you to wind back parts/the whole code to a place where and error was introduced and you fixed it. I would push for git for the simple fact it allows for a cool trick. Even if you fork our code you can do what is called a 'pull request' to have us bring parts of your code back into the main tree easily. It's complex, but a time saver Posted by SquidGirl That version schema may further confusing things if you ever release the code publicly. The issue is since we had to do it once with board2. While it doesn't matter if you did call your base 2.7, it will sure cause confusion.. (and if we released a 2.7 more so). While it's never been documented we do have a suggested versioning schema for forked versions. The current one used for 2.5+ is: Acmlmboard 2.x.y Something (MM/DD/YYYY) x = minor version. This only changes when we have a really large single code change, a stable code changes consisting of many 'maintenance releases', or a major milestone y = maintenance release number. I usually change this number after a small changes, or a new feature is added. "Something" = is optional. I use to denote "development", "experimental", or the name of a long term branch. Stable code does not have anything here. Date = This the one part that changes the most. It's just the last date modified. It isn't always updated, but it's the quick way to tell if a very small change has been made. (I wanted to document this since it hasn't been) There have been variations in the past. Usually they use the + method The first would look like Acmlmboard 2.5.2 +Squiddy-2.7.0 (MM/DD/YYY) There are other things you can do of course. Add more numbers after 2.x.y, or even redo the whole line. Just a suggestion from the past. It would be funny if we all coded AB in 5 or 6 different languages. I think that would be neat! The Dynamic Profile Administrator™"Never Knows Best" Note: if you can see this my layout broke. ALL THE CREDITS WILL BE REVEALED!! 'Victory Noriko' by @thatsheepagain. 'Chibi Dance Noriko' by @Haru__Kitsu. 'Deity's Night Out (Featuring Gabbie)' by @thatsheepagain Noriko Emotes by @Haru__Kitsu. Side Bar Noriko by @thatsheepagain 'Noriko's Nature Walk' by @projectTiGER_ Emotive Noriko by @thatsheepagain. "Space Candy Noriko" by BerryVerrine. "Super Sharp Noriko" by Xionfes. A gift illustration from the wonderful EverKinzPony! "Magical Girl Noriko" by @cute_hospital! "Patient Chibi Noriko" by @Ruii_ki! 'Dapper '60s Noriko' by @thatsheepagain. 'Shiny Chibi Noriko' by @inioli. 'Flower Veil Noriko' by @Sushiee_. 'Noriko in Realism' by @_Sarybuu. 'Noriko's Midnight Adventure' by @projectTiGER_ 'Yukata Noriko' by @yunyunmaru_ 'Birthday Wishes Noriko' by @thatsheepagain |
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Unspecificed Cooling Off Period. Be Safe Bisexual Empress of the Stolen Title? Level: 143 Posts: 5029/6751 EXP: 35713487 Next: 118321 Since: 07-17-13 Last post: 3417 days Last view: 3324 days |
Oh, no. I don't plan on releasing 2.7 publicly. If someone with PHP knowledge who really, really, really, really wanted to test it and add in their ideas. I predict the final product will see a public release in a couple years, definitely after 2.6 has been released and by then, Acmlmboard 2.7 most likely will be using a different language other than PHP.
The current version of my test board is Acmlmboard v2.5.2αβ Swootsa Development (11/06/2014) and I added the "alpha beta Swootsa" as it has a few minor edits. So thanks for the suggestion! I think the version schema will be something like Acmlmboard 2.5.2 +Squiddy-2.7.0 EARLY Development (MM/DD/YYY) as it will probably be a while before things get finalized. ____________________ Sunshine Realm Welcome to Aqmlm's, the only board with Al-Aq'mlmistrators! |
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pancakes Level: 84 Posts: 634/1870 EXP: 5546102 Next: 115850 Since: 01-05-12 From: France Last post: 37 days Last view: 37 days |
Squiddy |
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Unspecificed Cooling Off Period. Be Safe Bisexual Empress of the Stolen Title? Level: 143 Posts: 5030/6751 EXP: 35713487 Next: 118321 Since: 07-17-13 Last post: 3417 days Last view: 3324 days |
Yeah, I guess people will prefer it that way. Scrydan's board had hidden groups appear as "(Hidden Group)" to people who cannot see those hidden groups but he had a forum where you could act nosy about to be funny. But still, I think making hidden groups appear as "(Hidden Group)" rather than just not appear at all may feel a bit too.. I dunno how to describe it… unnecessary, perhaps? Or maybe that's just how I feel about it.
Also, don't thank me, thank Epele. My original code was messy and didn't work properly. Edit: Not that I don't like how ABXD and Blargboard show "Private" when when the hide email option is set. I was just pointing how something like "(Hidden Groups)" may feel unnecessary or something. ____________________ Sunshine Realm Welcome to Aqmlm's, the only board with Al-Aq'mlmistrators! |
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Not okay Prophet of Celestia Level: 94 Posts: 1919/2423 EXP: 8183329 Next: 173328 Since: 01-01-12 From: The Netherlands Last post: 2237 days Last view: 552 days |
First attempt was a raw listener, working from what I already knew from my MUD and IRC such. This turns out to be massive wheel-reinventing. Just found out about System.Net.HttpListener which makes things much more robust. |
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Unspecificed Cooling Off Period. Be Safe Bisexual Empress of the Stolen Title? Level: 143 Posts: 5034/6751 EXP: 35713487 Next: 118321 Since: 07-17-13 Last post: 3417 days Last view: 3324 days |
If anyone's interested, here is some concept art I made for a merge/split thread feature. Just be warned, I have horrendous handwriting.
Basically, you select merge or split, you select a forum and a thread, and you select which posts you want to merge/split. ____________________ Sunshine Realm Welcome to Aqmlm's, the only board with Al-Aq'mlmistrators! |
Emuz |
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11 Hit Combo: Mother's Rosario Level: 109 Posts: 2476/3393 EXP: 13563482 Next: 396163 Since: 12-30-11 From: Akron, Ohio; USA Last post: 114 days Last view: 3 days |
The tough part is you need to manage how to 'weave' the threads back together. Splitting should be easier. "post id >= id of spot to split: make new thread; change moved post's tid to new thread's tid;update existing thread's last data (user, date/time, etc);create last data for the new thread."
well that's not exactly how to do it, but that's a rough estimate. Merging is adding all the posts by updating tid than meta data, than moving the dead thread to a trash forum. Again that's not a exactly how the backend would work, but that's a rough example. The Dynamic Profile Administrator™"Never Knows Best" Note: if you can see this my layout broke. ALL THE CREDITS WILL BE REVEALED!! 'Victory Noriko' by @thatsheepagain. 'Chibi Dance Noriko' by @Haru__Kitsu. 'Deity's Night Out (Featuring Gabbie)' by @thatsheepagain Noriko Emotes by @Haru__Kitsu. Side Bar Noriko by @thatsheepagain 'Noriko's Nature Walk' by @projectTiGER_ Emotive Noriko by @thatsheepagain. "Space Candy Noriko" by BerryVerrine. "Super Sharp Noriko" by Xionfes. A gift illustration from the wonderful EverKinzPony! "Magical Girl Noriko" by @cute_hospital! "Patient Chibi Noriko" by @Ruii_ki! 'Dapper '60s Noriko' by @thatsheepagain. 'Shiny Chibi Noriko' by @inioli. 'Flower Veil Noriko' by @Sushiee_. 'Noriko in Realism' by @_Sarybuu. 'Noriko's Midnight Adventure' by @projectTiGER_ 'Yukata Noriko' by @yunyunmaru_ 'Birthday Wishes Noriko' by @thatsheepagain |
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Unspecificed Cooling Off Period. Be Safe Bisexual Empress of the Stolen Title? Level: 143 Posts: 5036/6751 EXP: 35713487 Next: 118321 Since: 07-17-13 Last post: 3417 days Last view: 3324 days |
Hmm… yeah, that might be a challenge for me as I'm relatively but I should be able to eventually get past that.
An update, I have attempted to make acmlmistratortools.php. The image should be self-explanatory. However, it has bugs and errors as you can see. There are things that I screwed up, such as colspans as Arisotura told me. The radio buttons are not preselected and the "Apply changes" button doesn't work. ____________________ Sunshine Realm Welcome to Aqmlm's, the only board with Al-Aq'mlmistrators! |
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pancakes Level: 84 Posts: 635/1870 EXP: 5546102 Next: 115850 Since: 01-05-12 From: France Last post: 37 days Last view: 37 days |
Squiddy |
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Unspecificed Cooling Off Period. Be Safe Bisexual Empress of the Stolen Title? Level: 143 Posts: 5037/6751 EXP: 35713487 Next: 118321 Since: 07-17-13 Last post: 3417 days Last view: 3324 days |
Posted by StapleButter Well, I'm giving up on working on acmlmistratortools.php. The colspan shit like $L [TD1c]> is too difficult for me understand. I'll PM the code to anyone who wants to finish it. I'll move on to other stuff like deletedpoststracker.php or ban hammer.php or something but it'll be a while before I start those as I need more in-depth PHP knowledge to do that type of stuff. ____________________ Sunshine Realm Welcome to Aqmlm's, the only board with Al-Aq'mlmistrators! |
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pancakes Level: 84 Posts: 636/1870 EXP: 5546102 Next: 115850 Since: 01-05-12 From: France Last post: 37 days Last view: 37 days |
Squiddy |
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Unspecificed Cooling Off Period. Be Safe Bisexual Empress of the Stolen Title? Level: 143 Posts: 5038/6751 EXP: 35713487 Next: 118321 Since: 07-17-13 Last post: 3417 days Last view: 3324 days |
Oh, it's HTML. I don't know HTML.
Well, here is the code for anyone who is interested, I guess. Edit: Well, I made a few improvements. Still quite buddy, though. I dunno, I guess I don't give up as easily as I thought I did. Edit 2: I have made more improvements. This is another attempt and this is the latest attempt. In the last attempt, I managed to get the radio buttons preselected in accordance to the value of the intval field in PMA. However, clicking the "Apply changes" button still does nothing and resets any radio buttons you clicked back to the value of the intval field. Currently, the only way to change the radio buttons is to the change intval through PMA. On another note, I implemented the show-online perm. Nothing to sneeze at, really. In editprofile.php, change
to
In the perm table in PMA, add a new column with an id of show-online, a title of Show Online, and a perm cat_id of 1. In the x_perm table in PMA, add a new column with an id of something like 2005, an x_id of 2, an x_type of group, a perm_id of show_online, a bindvalue of 0, and a revoke of 0. ____________________ Sunshine Realm Welcome to Aqmlm's, the only board with Al-Aq'mlmistrators! |
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Bullet Bill well then Level: 131 Posts: 4130/5515 EXP: 25736503 Next: 688117 Since: 01-29-14 From: ??? Last post: 1046 days Last view: 992 days |
Well, speaking of Acmlministration tools...
I ported the Jul mockup board settings some time ago This is nothing special. It was a sort of experiment to see if I could port the thing from the Jul source, update the settings to the AB2 equivalent (and add some extra things) and make it actually do something. The only thing that doesn't work is the "Board Info", because I realized that it was plain unnecessary to have four extra SQL queries for that, so I went back to the standard way. |
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