Would you ignore this question even if you knew your life depended on it?

Posted by Trapster

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Where are you standing?

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I'm standing over a bottomless pit.

...why thanks for reminding me, because the laws of movies dictate that I now fall down. Waaaaaaaaa...

That's one topic to be expected I guess. I'm not asking "what operating system do you use" (we know that from the poll already), but discuss the background a bit.

As for me I kinda grew up with a system with Windows 95, and as we had quite a lot of old MS-DOS applications I came to learn that system as well. Eventually I switched to Windows 98, and then made the big leap to XP, which I've stuck with since.

My point is, modern Windowses like 7 are unusable to me. Why? Because there are so many wizards and helpers and so much changed that I cannot get along with it at all. I need some kind of expert mode which there isn't in 7. Also, some stuff just plain doesn't work, like when I tried to install the network printer, it worked like a charm for every operating system, only 7 refused to install it under any circumstances. (Eventually I found a long and convoluted workaround which did the job for me,... but it took ages.)

I guess for someone who's new to computers 7 may be a miracle, but not for me. I don't even know what I'll do if Windows XP at some point stops being supported... I'll have to see.

Posted by Kiyoshi

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I can do everything in 7 what I can do in XP, and even more.
Some things are better hidden to make it less scary for the average user, but everything is there, and improved (things like System Restore and Network Setup really suck on XP).

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I can't speak for System Restore, as I don't use that. I agree that Network Setup is kind of a hassle in XP (it requires changing crap in secpol.msc that a normal user would never dare figuring out). 7 might have the upper hand there.

Posted by Kiyoshi

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I do recommend Windows 7 for its much better security though. Always working under Admin mode in XP is dangerous, and having to use "Run As..." every time is cumbersome, as in XP, you will have to enter your password every time (same as Mac OS X/Linux). In Windows 7 it is just a click, proving its user-friendliness.

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XP and Linux aren't comparable. Linux' user system is so much more convenient, if you try to do something you don't have permission for, it will pop up a convenient password dialog and you can continue as normal, and even for the Terminal a single sudo command will get you into the admin realms. As opposed to XP which just gives you the finger with a "insufficient rights, go away".

7 kinda went into the opposite direction. Instead of just taking the Linux user system, they castrated the admin account to the point where it hardly deserves the name "Administrator". You cannot change things in the Windows folder, you get tons of pop-ups, and just... urgh. In XP I can always be adminstrator if I want, and in Linux I can always log on as root (though there's really no reason to since their user system is so excellently designed).

Posted by Kiyoshi

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Windows XP will be supported until April 2014.

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I was more thinking of applications actually. Some new ones start to be Vista/7 only.

Are you familiar with this dish?



That was part of my lunch today. I really like it!

Posted by Kiyoshi

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There is a Run As command in XP if you right-click on an icon, which asks for a password, just like Linux and Mac.

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Yeah but it's hardly any user friendly, starting from how you have to explicitly select it every time. Who would do that?

Posted by Kiyoshi

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Why? Because the first user account on XP is always administrator, and people are used to that. This means every program runs with admin rights, making web browsers, download managers, and every other program that uses the web in some way, a convenient way for viruses to install themselves on your PC without anything to stop them.

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Microsoft was really retarded there. XP was meant to cover the userbase that previously used Windows 9x, which didn't have a user system. So while you do have to create a user during the post-setup steps, they decided to make it have admin rights by default, so 1. the userbase wouldn't have to change their habits, and 2. old 9x applications would continue to work (which are stupid reasons, IMO). If it had user rights by default then the whole dilemma would've never happened and the world would be better.

But even then, it wouldn't have improved much, because 1. the very first time after installing you're logged on as the Administrator account which allows you to ruin everything already, and 2. the post-setup instructions can be skipped by shutting down the computer or going into Safe Mode beforehand, which leaves you with only the Administrator account. I think that was one of Microsoft's biggest mistakes.

Posted by Kiyoshi

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Why is Linux (and Mac OS X for that matter) safer?
Because they are not used on enough computers to be a profitable target. This is changing for Macs though, the first Mac botnet has been around for a few years already.

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That is true. I never claimed they were safer, just more user friendly.

Remember when you halved the height of the quick reply box?

Well it applies to the normal reply box as well, when you hit the preview button. This makes writing long posts really difficult.

Why were you so negative when you created this thread?

Also I gotta admit something: normally I am not into ponies, but I fell in love with your new side image!

My point is the following: the Administrator account in Vista and 7 has no write access to the Windows folder. If you want to change something there (and yes, there are legitimate reasons to do so), you can't, no matter what you do. For me, that is a serious defect.

Windows File Protection isn't that bad, concept-wise, it does its job and you could still do your stuff. The problem is that it's too easy to circumvent, by deleting the sfc files itself it's rendered useless (since for some reason it cannot restore itself) and malicious software can do whatever it wants.

I'm only missing one single sprite of the original set... somehow, I have the feeling I will never get that one.

Hahahahahahahaha

Just as you posted that, I caught the last sprite of the original set!

Oh man that has to be the best coincidence ever!

How many commands do you support?

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When a forum announcement is posted you get a NEW! marker, but it won't remove because forum announcements presumably don't get marked read the same way threads do.

We have no topic on drinking? What a scandal! That must be changed immediately!

So, it's straightforward, what do you drink?

I mostly drink water during the course of the day. Only at lunch is it a bit more varied - depending on the meal, it's juice, tea, or milk, whatever fits best.

I have a bunch of programs open yet only 26 processes. I really don't run a lot.

But when I see some 7 laptops with 60 or more processes, I almost get a heart attack.

Oh Sims. I had the original one and a whole bunch of expansion packs. It was pretty fun but social life was too difficult to handle for me (just like in real life lol).

I hated my lunch, so I threw it in the wastebasket.

Now I am hungry.

It's ok. You can insult regular members.