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Posted by SquiddyI don't think it should be illegal. There are some medical situations where it becomes a necessity to perform an abortion. For example, the LDS church is not pro-abortion; quite the opposite. Except, it does believe that an abortion is necessary when, among other reasons, the mother is not expected to live.Posted by CherryBunny |
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Posted by StapleButterIn the most basic of logic, yes, abortion is better. But, there are places where you can give up a baby no questions asked. No paperwork, no fear of discipline. Most hospitals have a place to just drop babies off if they're unwanted. Also, potential life is a really screwy thing to deal with. And it really shouldn't be. If one can reasonably expect that no serious ill should come to the child or the mother, then the child should be carried and birthed. Doesn't matter how far along the fetus is. Then you deal with finding a home for the unwanted child. Potential life isn't about defining when a fetus becomes an "independent being", it's about what that fetus could grow up to be. Hell, one of you very well might not exist because someone decided that you're an inconvenience to their lives. Weren't all of you a fetus at one point? But instead, you're alive, because you've been lucky enough to not have a closed-minded individual decide your fate for you. Again, all of this is said barring reasonable medical concern or availability. |
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I suppose that terms like "potential life" and "where life begins" are both too broad of a term to look at them at their most basic components. Kironide did a good job at bringing up and expounding upon specific points, as well as encouraging discussion based on those points. As abrasive as it might seem (compared to the rest of the arguments given) he captured the art of debate extremely well, and I can't hope to get on his level.
Abortion is one of those things that "seem wrong" (or right) depending on your view of the world, but can be discussed and broken down to pure elementary questions of science. But, I feel like when you do that, you lose the goal of trying to define whether it's right or wrong and instead trying to simply define it. At the same time, you need to define it to be able to make a judgment on it! Ugh... Somehow I think this is a conversation that's going to be had in a courtroom sometime soon. |
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Posted by GoogieProbably only some of you. That's the idea, right? |
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Because it's a worthy topic of debate. Debate was the design of this thread. What else are we going to debate about? Pancakes?
Besides, this thread is in the Officer's Club. People are expected to act semi-civil in here. We can have a convo (even a debate) like grown adults. Don't like it? Don't post in here telling us you aren't going to post in here and then criticize people for bringing up such a subject. |
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This week's macabre dream happened last night:
The first thing I remember is me playing some future Halo game where I am actually in the game, like virtual reality or something. I was playing a game type that isn't in Halo today, called "Territory", where it's sort of like the Tony Hawk gametype where you claim parts of the map by doing tricks on it. In "Territory", you have objects in the map (any object) where you basically imbue a kind of shield on the face of an object to claim it. To claim an object, you can shoot or melee attack it, but it works better if you use the actual tool given to you for this purpose. I was a noob and didn't know the controls yet (or because I was dreaming, my subconscious hadn't formed a way to do this yet) so I just walked up to items and shot them up. I came across another player's claimed object, which was a mailbox sized container. I found that shooting it did less damage than melee, so I just melee'd it until the damage counter went to zero; at which point I started putting my own claim up on it. At this point, I was about halfway into the match, when I noticed something that shouldn't be in Halo. I seem to remember it being some creepy anime girl (probably Aura from dot hack) floating around. When my eyes caught another glimpse, she had torn a window outside of the bounds of Halo and into some connecting universe between it and a bunch of other man-created entertainment media franchises, represented as constellations in the sky. She went to another one, and I followed. She went to the "Betelgeuse" constellation, and... yeah, it was Beetlejuice. I didn't see him, but I did keep going looking for her. The setting there was an abandoned city, and I hardly began walking down the road when Beetlejuice found me looking for the same thing he also noticed. I ignored him, and he seemed to think that finding this girl was some kind of competition. He didn't bother me at first, and didn't say anything to me, but he kept his distance. As I walked down the roads, he was always there, visible and hanging off of buildings and facades. I came across an abandoned, half-way completed building where I was almost certain I could "feel" she was there. Beetlejuice seemed to sense that, and he became more agitated with my persistence in "his" goal. To me, he didn't show any kind of anger or evil, but went on in a mischievous manner to challenge my presence and determination. I paid him no heed. I began to climb the building, by hand, since there were no other ways to ascend. Beetlejuice started to climb too, when I saw him climbing faster. He was slightly above me, when he started climbing down in front of me. And then he farted right in my fucking mouth! I then said something like "Come on, man, I'm not here for you, get out of here." Then he laughed, and climbed higher away from me, and around the corner, away from view. That was it, I woke up, confused... and I could swear I could taste a bit of shit in my mouth. |
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How the fuck did you make this thread about cunts? |
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now you're talking. |
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I think Mary's trying to decide if her request for me to strip goes against her orientation or not.
Edit: After looking closer at IRC, I realize that it doesn't. I guess I better go get my camera~ |
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Posted by NicoleI don't think there's anything NSFW about this. In fact, I don't even know why there is even a question about it. You look great!Posted by Mary ... Also, what twitter account? |
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Yeah, that's right, fuck us all and everything we have said. Did nothing in this thread help? Like, at all? Just scroll up! Plenty of evidence that you should not do what you're planning. How much better than abortion is suicide? Choose life. |
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This is something that you just can't change once you've gone through with your decision. And don't think there aren't consequences for your actions, even after you're gone. Wait a while and let it play out. |
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Added all suggestions, removed the second NSMB tag. |
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I'm a few thousand in debt as well. Not over 10k, but it's a debt and it does hang over me. I do pay my own bills though, and am able to make decent payments. So it doesn't weigh so heavy on me so as to eat away at my determination to maintain those payments. But once you get to the point where you're making the smallest payments as defined by your contract, your interest is often the greatest inhibitor in getting those debts paid off.
I see your point... getting yourself to stay focused on maintaining the lifestyle required to reliably continue to make payments can be really monotonous and tiring, to the point where you are just burnt out on dwelling on your situation. The desire to just give up is there, usually right in front of you. All while this is going on, other elements of your life seem to be plotting your demise. You have to do things to mitigate this, somehow. I'm always electronics hungry. I'm always taking part in some online activity, or engaged in some form of creativity. I have a killer PC setup, and I might have been out of debt had I not bought all this stuff. But, on the other hand, would I be mentally capable of handling life without a means to be comfortable? It's not bad to make yourself comfortable. It's healthy to maintain a certain level of comfort and happiness. Therefore, justifying having nice things is reasonable, to a point. Compulsive buying, uneducated financial decisions, and having eyes larger than your wallet are all things I've had to learn (the hard way) how to mitigate. Get comfortable, but not too comfortable. Mitigate your income. Assuming you don't have a budget, open up an excel spreadsheet and make yourself a little calendar for the year and each day a bill is due, write it in for that day. Write in your paydays, too. Then, in your spreadsheet, make a list of your monthly income and outgoing funds, and make a list of your debt balances. Then, start with the top row with how much money you actually have (balance), then work your way down each row with each income/outgoing event, adjusting your balance as you go, noting the description and a date. Before I had a balance, this hung over my head bigtime. Now that I can see what all I owe and how my cash flow works, I can finally see light at the end of a tunnel (and it's not a train) and my worries were drastically reduced. It might be a bit intimidating to see the total of all your debts, but it's the enlightenment you want. That final debt number should be encouraging you to get out of debt as fast as you possibly can, and that number will stay with you when deciding to go out and buy more things. It'll cause you to think about your money more carefully, and will play a part as you go through your justifications for wanting something nice. The compulsive buying will be reduced, and your financial decisions will be greatly more educated. Your passions in what you want to do with your free time and, ultimately, what you want to do in life are also important. But it's also wise to recognize that you can spend too much time doing that as well. There's nothing delusional about "what you want". You just need to mitigate and educate yourself in getting there. Quitting your job might have been a good call for you, especially since you got another job already. Keep that momentum going. You'll be alright. |
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