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The old acmlmboard software would display the post layout used at the time of your post not the updated one. I suggest you give the option to see layouts based on post-time, not just the newest.
I'm not sure how posts and layouts are implemented in the database, but I know how to make this work without redundant data on the posts_text table (and I'm sure Bouche knows how to do it too). I'd love to see this implemented~ |
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It does make the post layout thread seem like a waste in terms of progression posts in its current state.  |
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Not sure if this is such a good idea. I mean yeah it has historical merit but once the host dies you see stuff like in the I1 archive. :/ |
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♥52 ✿5057 ★58 The big issue I would see is the ABXD-style CSS... as those would get overwritten if I made a post with a different layout on the same page, which might be an issue especially for people using larger page limits...
Though it's probably not too important, as having two posts on the same page of a thread with different layouts, and the CSS interfering in a negative way, is probably not too common. |
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I also want to have a strictly board-hosted layout, but since it's a big suggestion, I'll leave it for when/if I ever get to work on the code. |
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~< Outta here. |
Here's a thought: instead of relying on the board to store your layout code per-post, disable the post layout for a single post and manually implement it in your post body. |
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♥54 ✿5057 ★58 Posted by GreyMaria Of course, this has implications for anyone who might want to quote your post... |
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~< Outta here. |
Posted by NicolePosted by GreyMaria Laziness killed the lazy bastard. Besides, this plan's only intended for the layout thread, which is the only reason knuck's suggestion would ever serve any purpose. |
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Posted by GreyMariaUh, no. People mention layours/signatures often in post. But since it has changed to a newer one, a post mentioning an old layout will make no sense. |
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Really? What's next, persistant custom titles and avatars? |
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Posted by KawaNeat idea! |
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Next great idea: when you edit a post, the new post gets added under the old post! 
Seriously, I'm not in support of this feature. If users get lazy and just reuse their old layout's stylesheet instead of making a new one, the old layouts break rather badly. As it has already been said, same problem with hosts disappearing (see AB archives), and such a feature would conflict with the NN-style sidebars (old posts would have a mix of the old layout and new sidebars, which could look quite weird). Technically speaking, it's also causing a lot of bloat, since a copy of the user's header and signature has to be stored with each and every post. To make it worse, there are post edits, which create new posts_text entries, a feature AB1 didn't have. On an administration point of view, it'd also make removing offending layouts harder. With the current method, all that has to be done is edit the user's profile, et voila. With the AB1 method, you'd need to edit each and every post made with the offending layout (or modify the board to filter it out, like Xkeeper does). ____________________ Kuribo64 - melonDS want some revolution in your coffee? |
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My concern with this relates to what ended up happening with I1. Mostly you'll run into images that are no longer stored anywhere. If you look at Acmlm's archive you'll see this clearly. The other big issue is, Bouche doesn't have unlimited space. Another issue was, if someone had a really bad layout.. in this case a broken css or something.. it would need to be cleared out by SQL query. All of these can be solved. Mostly with admin side tools, and a mode for everyone to toggle (current only, or at the time of posting)
I'd like to see what everyone else thinks as well. The Dynamic Profile Administrator™"Never Knows Best" Note: if you can see this my layout broke. ALL THE CREDITS WILL BE REVEALED!! 'Victory Noriko' by @thatsheepagain. 'Chibi Dance Noriko' by @Haru__Kitsu. 'Deity's Night Out (Featuring Gabbie)' by @thatsheepagain Noriko Emotes by @Haru__Kitsu. Side Bar Noriko by @thatsheepagain 'Noriko's Nature Walk' by @projectTiGER_ Emotive Noriko by @thatsheepagain. "Space Candy Noriko" by BerryVerrine. "Super Sharp Noriko" by Xionfes. A gift illustration from the wonderful EverKinzPony! "Magical Girl Noriko" by @cute_hospital! "Patient Chibi Noriko" by @Ruii_ki! 'Dapper '60s Noriko' by @thatsheepagain. 'Shiny Chibi Noriko' by @inioli. 'Flower Veil Noriko' by @Sushiee_. 'Noriko in Realism' by @_Sarybuu. 'Noriko's Midnight Adventure' by @projectTiGER_ 'Yukata Noriko' by @yunyunmaru_ 'Birthday Wishes Noriko' by @thatsheepagain |
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I find the "auto-updating" tends to prune out a lot of horror layouts. I'm not sure I'd see the benefit of it.
An alternative though: Store the layout connected to the user profile as a separate "revision". Skipping layouts not used for posting. That way, if one is breaking the board or is horrific, it only takes one nuking. 
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~< Outta here. |
While we're on the topic of layouts, though, I feel I should mention that knuck's is making the page stretch horizontally... without stretching any tables. What the fuck? |
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Knuck is a man who knows how to stretch the wrong things  |
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Posted by Mega-MarioThat never (or at least not often) happened before on 1.X versions. Posted by Mega-Mario I don't really know what are those sidebars you speak of. I'm still with a 1.95 mindset. Posted by Mega-MarioYou obviously don't know what you're talking about when it comes to the implementation of such a feature. Posted by Mega-MarioYou obviously don't know what you're talking about when it comes to the implementation of such a feature. Posted by GreyMariaFixed. This feature makes the posts more consistent for readers in the future. The ideal would to disallow any HTML tags on posts and add a WYSIWYG layout maker to edit profile (I know, it'd take time). PS: This is intended as an option in edit profile, not to change the current behavior. |
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Kawa already had a WYSIWYG layout maker on his board.. Wouldn't be too hard to work on that and make it just attach to your profile rather than just outputting the css and html for you to copy paste.. |
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Posted by knuckBullshit. I've been through the archives just recently, and a lot of layouts are just plain broken, depending on where their component parts were stored. The sidebar is where your pony's at. Posted by JetThat's what the Install button does, actually. |
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